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• WeUnite@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  First of all the first term wasn’t fine. Some of Trump’s “accomplishments” include raising the national debt significantly despite being part of a party that constantly claims they will deal with it, and poor actions which results in many deaths in the US during the pandemic. He also had secret conversations with Putin and may have transferred our secrets to Russia. Also he told the big lie and supported storming the capitol during J6.

  Here’s a non inclusive list of some the scandals during Trump’s first term: msnbc.com/…/antisemitism-alphabetical-guide-trump…

  The only reason his first term wasn’t even worse was because people stopped him. Now there are going to be less people to stop him. That’s why we must stay strong and vigilant and work towards getting as many Democrats elected locally in 2025 and nationally in 2026.

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  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The man is literally a walking national security threat who has no problem blabbing state secrets for free because in his mind, it’s a way of showing how important he is.

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• A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  When people say nothing bad happened I’m like “did everyone forget the huge amount of people who died needless deaths?”

  I swear we live in different worlds

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  • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I mean, they see it as a virus’s fault, not the government’s fault.

    Just like with the famine during the Great Leap Forward, not Mao’s fault, its just natural disaster.

    Also, my mom suggested that the virus could’ve possibly originated from the US as an engineered bioweapon against China…

    (the same virus somehow got into the US? 🤦‍♂️ Idk anymore, this world is so absurd with the assasination attempts, a convicted felon being elected president, and CEO getting shot, coup attempt in South Korea out of nowhere… I’m wondering if I’m in a dream/nightmare, its just bizzare…)

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    • Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I mean, they see it as *mostly* the virus’s fault, not really the government’s fault.

      Which is funny since the Republican/conservative stance on the virus seemed to be “no big deal.”

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    • WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Mao ordering the death of all sparrows, which then led to mass locust swarms eating all the crops, followed by mass starvation. Not his fault at all…

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      • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Um yea, tell that to my parents.

        Their logic is:

        Leader fuck up their leadership = Natural disaster

        People with non-visible diseases (such as: Depression) not being able to fuctions properly = Laziness

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  • ObsidianNebula@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I swear we live in different worlds

    I couldn’t agree more. A lot of my family are conservative and talk politics all the time, and whenever any scandal or poor decision is brought up from Trump’s first term, they always downplay it as if it was barely an issue. According to them, just about everything was outside of Trump and the Republican party’s control, taken out of context, or just outright didn’t happen. It doesn’t matter how much evidence you provide, they refuse to accept that someone they voted for may have done something bad.

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• grue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Nah, they want China to be “reunited” with Taiwan

  Under the KMT, not the CCP, right?

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• iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I know that you mean well, but you seeing your mother’s vote is exactly why mail in voting should be the exception. Voting booths exist so that votes ate secret, which is how it should be.

  My mom hates Trump since she thinks he’s crude, but I’m 99% sure that my dad voted for them both by mail in votes.

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  • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Oh, I mean, its not like I gave her an order to vote a certain way. I just convinced her to do it by invoking her fears (Just like the maga do by invoking xenophobia, but in my case, in reverse). Like if she wanted to vote trump, she could’ve just hidden it, or just be a proud maga and not even hide it. Like what was I gonna do? I still have to live with her, I have no leverage over her, and I’m definitely not gonna commit a crime and illegally tamper with votes.

    Convincing someone to vote a certain way out of their own free will is not illegal.

    Someone voluntarily not hiding their ballot is not illegal either. (It’s not like I forced her to show the ballot)

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    • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      In the Virginia mail-in voting instructions it is very clear that you are not to show anyone who you voted for. I guess I’m not surprised if other states do not have that, since voting rules are so haphazard in the USA.

      It may be illegal to show your vote, exactly to prevent people in an unequal power relationship from pressuring you to vote in a specific way.

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      • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I mean, I’m the one depending on my mom not kicking me out, so like, morally speaking, I didn’t do anything wrong.

        Legally, ballot selfies are legal in Pennsylvania where I live. Ballot selfies are also legal in Virginia. Why would Virgina make ballot selfies legal, but make showing ballots illegal?

        Are you sure its an actual law, and not just a suggestion of the ballot instructions?

        Btw, even in the polling booth (in PA at least), you are allowed to have someone assist you vote.

        And I’m not even assisting. I’m just giving advice and hope she doesn’t vote for a fascist.

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