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- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
I mean, ignorant, fine, but propagandist??
- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
Deimos is a dumb piece of shit. Evidence is that Tildes is somehow still invite only after like five fucking years.
Why do you think this is a bad thing? The best discussion board that I've been a member of by a wide margin (not mentioning names, it's all in Czech anyways) has been invite only for 20 years now. It's a tried and true way to limit eternal september as long as the community is active enough to not die out, which hasn't happened yet on Tildes.
- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
Well the rules are pretty clear in that you can call other people's ideas stupid, but not other people stupid. Personally I prefer spaces with hands-off moderation and focus on free speech, but those generally don't work in a general discussion platform without any implicit gatekeeping to keep idiots away, so I'm giving this style a chance and so far the results have been far better than most places on Reddit on Lemmy.
- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
Did you mean "social democracy"? I don't think there's actual socialism anywhere there - that's still capitalism, only with a strong welfare system, which has downsides, but it's obviously viable at least in some societies.
- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
I'm mostly staying in an invite-only board in my local language that's been functional for like 20 years now and is smarter than Reddit has ever been, but I'm also spending some time on Tildes, which is honestly not bad. Like lemmy, it has a pretty strong leftist bias (which is a problem for me because not being from US or western Europe I don't really fall into their left-right division), but it's much smarter and less toxic, so disagreement without too much bullshit is possible.
- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
Reddit’s early days were similar, but internet culture has definitely gotten more intense since the early 2010s.
Has it really been that way? I've been on reddit since 2010 and from what I remember it was definitely much more nerdy and full of tech people who live on the internet, but I don't think it had much in common with what we call "terminally online" today. I associate "terminally online" with people who really care about things like culture wars and trying to push their views on others, spending a lot of time arguing about it. Whereas reddit in 2010 was much more homogenous - the stereotypes about forever alone IT nerds with nerdy hobbies were much more true than now, but that meant there were nowhere near as many cultural things to argue about. People sometimes had really weird or controversial opinions, but there was not a lot of added toxicity about it that's omnipresent now in the discussions.
Ime the "terminally online" problems with toxicity and culture wars only started around 2014-15 with the rise of "online feminism", that seemed like the first big division into two hostile groups that spent significant time just attacking each other.
- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
I don't think you understand what I mean, so I'll try to rephrase.
Knowing that bad shit is happening and accepting that it's bad shit is one thing. Wallowing in it and pointlessly arguing about it (not normally discussing it in a measured way) is a separate thing that is not necessary and helps neither the ones participating nor the community in general. It's possible to do it differently and many are capable of it.
- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
My experience is that firstly Lemmy is not that diverse and secondly that there are platforms that are not that diverse either but are much more open and capable of discussion. Tildes for example is in general too progressive for me (I'm not from the US, so I don't really fit into its politics/culture wars left-right division, though I'm closer to the left), but it's nowhere near as toxic as political threads around here and it's normally possible to have discussion and disagree in a civil way.
- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
The problem is that the people OP complains about generally don't want to see anything else and pointlessly argue with you if you do it. Personally I'm slowly ending my Lemmy experiment and posting somewhere where the majority cares and is capable of normal discussion.
- Comment on [deleted] 11 months ago:
This is the problem though. It's fine to mention them and be informed, but there is no need to wallow in how horrible the world is and shut down anybody who disagrees, which is what OP is complaining about. Those are two separate things, the second one is a choice and there are places where it doesn't happen.
- Comment on Where did the abbreviation "w/" for "with" come from? 11 months ago:
RANT: While I know that language changes all the time, I find it very unfortunate that this little fellow o/ and possibly his slightly more formal friend o7 have become synonymous with “nazi salute”. First off, it’s the wrong arm! And second off, what do you have against “man waving” and “man saluting”?
Have they really? Never seen o7 used that way, with o/ it's more understandable, but since one can easily just use \o (or use an actual unicode swastika) I just don't see it getting that controversial. Seems even less known than the triple parentheses thing, which is something that most people who don't spend their lives on the internet never heard about.
- Comment on Lemmy moderation is frustrating as hell 1 year ago:
I think that's willfully distorting the situation. Punching down should refer to jokes that seem to be or obviously are made with malicious intent, it's not about certain groups being protected from humor altogether, that's infantilizing. From OP said and posted somewhere in this thread I don't think their jokes were in any way malicious.
- Comment on Lemmy moderation is frustrating as hell 1 year ago:
In my experience from lurking around Lemmy, it seems that the big instances are largely populated by stereotypically "reddit-left" people, which includes finding a lot of things offensive (whether they're actually offended or not) and being relatively hostile to people who don't seem to share their worldview, seemingly considering it the default that everyone should know and accept. You can see it in this thread as well.
Not being an American and being culturally outside of american partisanship, this has been quite the disappointment for me, but what can you do.