Atemu

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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨"No, seriously. All those things Google couldn't find anymore? Top of the search pile. Queries that generated pages of spam in Google results? Fucking pristine on Kagi – the right answers, over and over again."⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Is “Grouped Results” disabled in settings?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨"No, seriously. All those things Google couldn't find anymore? Top of the search pile. Queries that generated pages of spam in Google results? Fucking pristine on Kagi – the right answers, over and over again."⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Whether this is bad depends on your threat model. Additionally, you must also consider that other search engines are able to easily identify you explicitly identifying yourself. If you can’t fool abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs/, you certainly can’t fool Google for instance. And that’s even ignoring the immense identifying potential of user behaviour.

  Billing supports OpenNode AFAICT which I guess you could funnel your Moneros through but meh.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨"No, seriously. All those things Google couldn't find anymore? Top of the search pile. Queries that generated pages of spam in Google results? Fucking pristine on Kagi – the right answers, over and over again."⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I think you’re underestimating how huge of an undertaking a half-decent search index is, much less a good one.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨"No, seriously. All those things Google couldn't find anymore? Top of the search pile. Queries that generated pages of spam in Google results? Fucking pristine on Kagi – the right answers, over and over again."⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I personally have not found Kagi’s default search results to be all that impressive

  At their worst, they’re as bad as Google’s. For me however, this is a great improvement over using bing/Google proxies which would be the alternative.

  maybe if I took the time to customize, I might feel differently.

  That’s the killer feature IMHO.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨"No, seriously. All those things Google couldn't find anymore? Top of the search pile. Queries that generated pages of spam in Google results? Fucking pristine on Kagi – the right answers, over and over again."⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Your search results look very different to mine:

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  Did you disable Grouped Results?

  All the LLM-generated “top 10” listicles are grouped into one large block I can safely ignore. (I could hide them entirely but the visual grouping allows for easy mental filtering, so I haven’t bothered.) Your weird top10 fake site does not show up.

  But yes, as the linked article says, Kagi is primarily a proxy for Google with some extra on top. This is, unfortunately, a feature as Google’s index still reigns supreme for general purpose search. It absolutely is bad and getting worse but sadly still the best you can get. Using only non-Google indices would just result in bad search results.
  The Google-ness is somewhat mitigated by Kagi-exclusive features such as the LLM garbage grouping.

  What Google also cannot do is highlighted in my screenshot: You can customise filtering and ranking.
  The first search result is a Reddit thread with some decent discussion because I configured Kagi to prefer Reddit search results. In the case of household appliances, this doesn’t do a whole lot as I have not researched trusted/untrusted sources in this field yet but it’s very noticeable in fields like programming where I have manually ranked sites.

  Kagi is not “all about” privacy. It’s a factor, sure but ultimately you still have to trust a U.S. company. Better than “trusting” a known abuser (Google, M$) but without an external audit, I wouldn’t put too much wight into this.
  The index ain’t it either as it’s mostly Google though sometimes a bit better.
  What really sets it apart is the features. Customised ranking aswell as blocking some sites outright (bye bye pinterest and userbenchmark) are immensely useful. So are filtering garbage results that Google still likes to return.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨"No, seriously. All those things Google couldn't find anymore? Top of the search pile. Queries that generated pages of spam in Google results? Fucking pristine on Kagi – the right answers, over and over again."⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  That whole situation was such an overblown idiotic mess. Kagi has always used indices from companies that do far more unethical things than committing the extreme crime of having a CEO who has stupid opinions on human rights.
  I 100% agree with Vlad’s response to this whole thing and anyone who thinks otherwise should question what exactly it is they’re criticising.

  I don’t like Brave (super shady IMHO) and certainly not their CEO but I didn’t sign up for a 100% ethically correct search engine, I signed up for a search engine with innovative features and good search results. The only viable alternatives are to use 100% not ethically correct search indices with meh (Google) to bad (Bing, DDG) search results. If you’re going to tell me how Google and M$ are somehow ethical, I’m going to have to laugh at you.

  The whole argument amounts to whining about the status quo and bashing the one company that tries anything to change it. The only way to get away from the Google monopoly is alternative indices. Yes those alternatives may not be much more ethical than friggin Google. So what.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨if the bird flu started spreading between humans, how long would you need to stay quarantined before it was safe to come out??⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  That article is interesting and important but it does not show any causal links between lockdowns and the disappearance.

  It is, for example, also possible that it was merely displaced by SARS-CoV2.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨How does data sent over the internet know where to go?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Your home router probably has no clue where that is, so it goes to its upstream router and asks if they know, this process repeats until one figures it out and you get a route.

  That’s not how that works. The router merely sends the packet to the next directly connected router.

  Let’s take a simplified example:

  If you were in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, USA and wanted to send a packet to Kyouto, Japan, your router would send the packet to another router it’s connected to on the west coast. From your router’s perspective, that’s it; it just sends it over and never “thinks” about that packet again.
  The router on the west coast receives the packet, looks at the headers, sees that its supposed to go to Japan and sends it over a link to Hawaii.
  The router in Hawaii again looks at the packet, sees that it’s supposed to go to Japan and sends it over its link to Toukyou.
  The router in Toukyou then sends it over its link to Kyouto and it’ll be locally routed further to the exact host from there but you get the idea.

  This is generally how IP routing works; always one hop to the next.

  What I haven’t explained is how your router knows that it can reach Kyouto via the west coast or how the west coast knows that it can reach Kyouto via Hawaii.
  This is where routing protocols come in. You can look up how exactly these work in detail but what’s important is their purpose: Build “map” of the internet which you can look at to tell which way to send a packet at each intersection depending on its destination.

  In operation, each router then simply looks at the one intersection it represents on the “map” and can then decide which way (link) to send each individual packet over.
  The “map” (routing table) is continuously updated as conditions change.

  Never at any point do routers establish a fixed route from one point to another or anything resembling a connection; the internet protocol is explicitly connectionless.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨What would happen if all of humanity don't need to work any more ?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Depends on how much of our needs would be covered. Not needing to work to survive is different from not needing to work to live a comfortable life which is again different from living a luxurious life.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨What does Lemmy do better than Reddit?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  You can create a post with link, image and content all at once.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Has Google’s search results drastically declined for anyone else?⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  It’s super annoying when it’s something I know is online.

  That may also simply no longer be true. Things do disappear from the internet; quite often actually.

  What’s the thing you were looking for? I want to try whether Kagi can dig it up.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨If one day our Fingerprint ends up Getting Stollen, Is There a Way we can Change it?⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  You Cannot Remove Your Fingerprints With Pineapple