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Yay archive.org! Drove by their building the other day and excitedly explained to my bored child that there were copies of “the online” there.
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Submitted 11 months ago by mesamunefire@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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blazeknave@lemmy.world 11 months ago
simple@lemm.ee 11 months ago
This port really is amazing. The level of detail in modernizing the game while keeping it faithful is awesome.
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It works really well on the steamdeck too. Its really great.
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Did it get taken off itch.io?
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 11 months ago
From what i understand yes. username is the same and files are the same.
ech@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Still there as of now.
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 11 months ago
trailer is here: archive.org/details/links-awakening-dx-hd
BleakBluets@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Maybe I’m wrong, but wasn’t there a way to release this while avoiding the issue of copyright? My understanding is that publishing “clean-room” reverse engineered code is legal. The graphics and sound can’t be redistributed, but you can distribute a tool to rip those assests from a ROM and let the users provide a ROM they own. This is what Ship of Harkinian does no?
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thats my understanding of what happened here. The code is even included in this port. So everything was written from the ground up. I haven’t had a chance to actually compile it yet, but it looks solid.
BleakBluets@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I think the binary they distributed still included the art and sound assets; the users didn’t have to provide their own. And “clean-room” design is more than just providing source code. You need to provide a “paper trial” / commit history and documentation of how the final code was derived from the original code.
insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 11 months ago
It also doesn't matter how by-the-law they do that if they're still using trademarked terms so will easily show up as a search result when they use a script to do another batch of DMCA takedowns.
I mean unless they have the willingness+time+money to fight a highly-paid team of lawyers in court. (which could happen either way, but it much more likely when it's so easy to find even if it gets 3 downloads)
Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 11 months ago
Glad to see this get preserved somewhere. It's always a shame when someone pours a lot of time and passion into a project like this only for it to get wiped from the internet once they get the cease-and-desist.
the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sadly the game being de-listed was inevitable. The same goes with this eventually.
The proper way of doing this would’ve been to have the code for the game, but use the ROM to get you the art assets. I am certain there are tools available to do this either before the game runs, i.e. have the user extract the data. Or have it at run time, like loading the ROM in an emulator.
It wouldn’t have been easy to do, but it would prevent Nintendo from going after them, since they are not using Nintendo’s assets.
insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 11 months ago
Easier: Stop using trademarked terms (particularly in this case where it's the original game name) and screenshots of the logo.
It's a multiplier to being caught, and can still result in a takedown even with original assets (for example, DMCA's sky which originally used the M name in the title). The further you distance yourself from trademarks/IP the better.
the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t see an issue with what the dev did here. It’s not easy to make a unique IP, and making a HD port like this is fine. You just need to be smart about it, like the various reverse engineering projects around.
So long as you aren’t distributing someone else’s copy protected assets, music, art, logos, you are fine.
roguetrick@kbin.social 11 months ago
Lemmy will not let you post stuff that can get DMCA'ed. It will cause the lemmy instances to lose their hosting provider if they get too many DMCA requests.
Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
A link to a different page that happens to have a download for something copyrighted is not itself DMCA-able. Well, in theory you could DMCA anything you want, and some companies are way too overzealous about it and fall into the “abusing the system” category, but I can’t imagine that this post would ever fall under their spotlight.
roguetrick@kbin.social 11 months ago
Google (and reddit) deals with tons and tons of those requests every day. Now, more than likely, Archive.org would be the one to remove it but that wouldn't prevent whoever is contracted with the rights holder from sending it to hosting providers that link to it as well (after they find said link indexed in a search engine).
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If an admin asks me to take it down, I dont mind taking it down. I dont want lemmy to get in trouble. However I do believe in this instance that no such requests have come in at this time.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
🤓
moktor@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Too slow to the party it seems, has been removed from archive.org as well. :(
quortez@kbin.social 11 months ago
Heard about about the port literally today at 3 and immediately downloaded it, but I thought I'd have more time than literally disappearing the same day.
Was inevitable though. May that pseudonymous dev be blessed
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Reddit wont let us talk about the game, but lemmy will. So here is an archived link to the excellent port.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
I’m not aware - Reddit is blocking posts about it?