Android: sideloading blocked and open source updates withheld to twice a year

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• eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’ve moved from Android to CyanogenMod, then Lineage OS, and now Graphene OS. I have zero interest in a proprietary, locked down platform.

  If they really want me to use a Linux tablet, I will.

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  • luciole@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The sad part is that LineageOS, GrapheneOS and basically all Android alternative OS are built on top of the AOSP, which Google controls, and they’re staling updates to twice a year. These stalled updates may include critical security patches or device compatibility support.

    Furthermore many android devices prevent users from entering a boot state which lets the owner install the OS of their choice, making everything more complicated.

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    • eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Absolutely, Google can kill off Android by making it a walled garden, like iOS, but worse. We’ll see what the Motorola GOS device will be like.

      I can definitely go back to tethered Linux WiFi tablet. Maybe something chinese, based on RISCV.

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• Azrael@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I really want a pixel so I can install GraphineOS

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  • leftascenter@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Next Motorola will not even fund google

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• schwim@piefed.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As developers keep trying harder to appeal to Google’s kindness and not kill off privacy-based usage of it’s OS, we just keep falling further behind in creating a real-world usable linux phone that can do everything a phone is supposed to do.

  Instead of writing a strongly worded letter to Google, EFF should have used this chance to let the community know that the boat is sinking and it’s long past time to jump ship.

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  • skribe@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Jump where? The alternatives currently require a small selection of hardware; are expensive; don’t offer the same level of service; or all the above.

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    • schwim@piefed.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That was literally my point. The reason there’s no linux phone is because everyone keeps trying to work within Google’s ever-shittier restrictions instead of having made real progress on a linux phone alternative. Now everyone is staring down the barrel of a scenario where they lose their non-Google android phone and still the entities that are supposedly working for our privacy are writing letters to Google asking them to please not be such a corporate giant intent on serving ads and knowing the location of 100% of their OS users.

      The linux phone landscape is so terrible because developers keep wasting their time trying to work with Google instead of offering an alternative that works.

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    • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, probably jump ship to a life without a mobile phone, online banking and train tickets. 🙁

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    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Welcome to Linux on desktop a few decades ago!

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  • AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    falling further behind in creating a real-world usable [libre] phone that can do everything a phone is supposed to do.

    Tis a cost analysis:
    Raise your hands if you want a libre phone. Raise your hands if you’ll loan out Billions of Euros without expectations of returns.

    Our planet is too illiterate to loan out billions of euros to R&D a phone design with the hellish logistics of sourcing parts, assembly & shipments, even if we gift the phone schematics on a radicle instance. I say this as someone experienced on lots of failed investments. Even as I await this plausibility. There are others like these.

    EFF should have

    Designed and spearheaded their own. Detailing risks, dangers, and threat models.

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• Powderhorn@beehaw.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is that seriously Janeway on the PADD on the nightstand?

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