Submitted 3 weeks ago by otters_raft@lemmy.ca [bot] to movies@lemm.ee
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx29x6569x2o
It’s simply not a very good movie, but that’s not really Zegler’s fault. Not that there’s anything special about her performance, but there isn’t really anything wrong with it, either.
It’s an adaptation that never had to get made, doubled up with with weird changes for a nostalgia bomb, poor writing, bad songs, and mediocre acting.
I’d argue that it’s not really Zegler’s fault… Not that there’s anything special about her performance, but there isn’t really anything wrong with it, either.
What’s not her fault? The article isn’t about her performance in the film, it’s about the pushback and resulting pile-on from conservatives to her casting and public comments prior to release.
Except all of the pushback is actually against casting/writing/changes, she simply answered questions honestly. I would argue that those who made the decisions are the source, not her relaying of the decisions.
This article almost feels like gaslighting.
Disney has put out a ton of content that follows the same power. It generally can be summarized as "put out overpriced mediocre garbage, hamfist some culture war stuff in there, and then imply anyone who doesn’t like it is some sort of deplorable.
This movie:
The most ridiculous part of this is the trailer for Lilo and Stich, a movie that is a million times more minority forward than the Snow White remake, dropped to largely positive reception. 2024 is going to be simultaneous “Snow White failed because of bigotry” and a movie centered around two woman of color, and unconventional definition of family, and Hawaiian culture prints money hand over fist.
Gal Gadot would be better cast AS A rock; her acting sucks.
Okay but the Rock once made a profit off a movie based on the video game Rampage. Some movies don’t require good acting.
It’s never going away there is a lot of money to be made on both sides. If the movie flops the studio can point to the racists and see it was them that tanked your movie. They can also point to progressives and say if you don’t watch our Comercial product your not supporting the insert minority group.
The right wing content farms have something to make content about. The left wing content farms have content based on the right wing content. Regular people just wanted a original movie that was good.
Some people don’t want minority groups to have rights and some people do and most don’t care about anything that’s not directly in front of them.
Yea, well it makes no sense to blame progressives for “not supporting a minority group” when the movie got rid of its dwarf actors for CGI or when they punished Zegler for supporting Palestine or when they cast an IDF soldier who can’t act.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I mean casting her is obvious bait by the producers. But the BBC calling her comments “controversial”? That’s problematic at least. She opposed genocide and illegal occupation and opposed an authoritarian strongman gaining power. That is not a controversial comment in a liberal democracy and the founding values of the western democracy.
Ilandar@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
They are objectively controversial positions, though. It doesn’t matter how much you agree with them, others clearly do not and it has led to heated public debate. That is literally the definition of controversial:
The so-called “liberal democracy” in which she lives is currently being run by the “authoritarian strongman” whose mission is seemingly to disrupt and dismantle many of those “founding values”. So again, reality is quite different to how you are presenting it. Calling the article garbage because it stated basic facts instead of ascribing to your fantasy land interpretation of current events is very silly.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I’d bet you could find actual historic precedence for this. Imagine a german actress making her voice heard in the weimarer republic about the rising power of the NAZI party. Back then, people didn’t know where hate speech would lead. But now we know.
Hate speech must be opposed (see Paradox of Tolerance). If you accept it you help the fascists. There is no valid opinion except opposing it, so it is not controversial. There was no discussion that can be called a discussion. It’s just an attack by fascists.
At least on those two points. It is absolutely VITAL that we call out news media that are supposedly neutral like the BBC. If they accept fascist talking point as a valid opinion in discussion, we have already lost.
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
The article is not loading for me. But I thought the controversy was about her constantly throwing shade at the classic movie.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
This is what I was referring to:
BBC simply shouldn’t take the critique coming from fascists seriously, it legitimizes it as two valid viewpoints.
The article mentions the “shade” but it seems she only commented on the elements of stalking and I guess you can also throw in the somewhat necrophiliac element of the prince kissing her presumably dead corpse lol.
But Snow White is based on a Grimm’s fairy tale anyway, which are quite bloody and cruel and far from the sweet Disney movies, and they also contain centuries of storytelling condensing a cultural subconsciousness and dreams. Disney was always more shallow entertainment going with the times. Enchanted is completely bonkers too but really amazing movie. So it’s all bullshit asking a remake to “stay true”.