I genuinely think that most people in the UK would rather destroy the planet than give up eating some meat.
The UK must make big changes to its diets, farming and land use to hit net zero – official climate advisers
Submitted 2 months ago by rah@feddit.uk to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
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Naich@lemmings.world 2 months ago
rah@feddit.uk 2 months ago
destroy the planet
We’re not destroying the planet, we’re destroying our offspring (and those of many other species). The planet will still be covered in life after we’re gone.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 months ago
This is a point that needs pushing more.
Save the planet is not only false. But less impactful than just save humankind.
Trying to convert humanity back to low meat diets (again a much easier sell and the real issue is mass production). It is more likely if people are convinced it is their children to great grand children that will Suffer/Die/never happen. Rather than suggesting all life will end.
davesmith@feddit.uk 2 months ago
A high carbohydrate and so high insulin-producing plant-based diet certainly isn’t healthy for me. The evidence that it is extremely problematic for many if not most people is compelling.
rah@feddit.uk 2 months ago
A high carbohydrate and so high insulin-producing plant-based diet certainly isn’t healthy for me.
What about a low carbohydrate plant-based diet?
Emperor@feddit.uk 2 months ago
I have largely given up on red meat and cow’s milk, I do sometimes have a bit of lamb. It’s definitely doable.
DakRalter@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
You literally said the problem was with insulin producing spikes from carbs, and therefore you can’t eat a plant based diet. I just showed you evidence that you can indeed eat a plant based diet, carbs or not, and maintain healthy blood sugar levels. And can even reverse diabetes.
It was obvious from the beginning you were being totally disingenuous. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but the fact that you’ll block over such an inoffensive message confirms my initial suspicion about you. You just don’t want to eat a plant based diet and will find any reason not to.
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discreetelite@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Love beef so much but I could easily cut it down by 30%
davesmith@feddit.uk 2 months ago
With the best will in the world, the plain and simple reality is that there are too many people. We are not anywhere near food or energy secure.
Emperor@feddit.uk 2 months ago
So you are saying… Thanos was right?
ladel@feddit.uk 2 months ago
This mostly seems pretty achievable in my eyes. Meat consumption is apparently trending down anyway, even without government intervention. The difficult part may be turning farmland into woodland, because how do you get farmers to convert their source of income into land for trees?
Flamekebab@piefed.social 2 months ago
This is something that irks me about how we have things setup at the moment. Farming produces food. Put money in, get food out. The notion that it also needs to make money is putting the cart before the horse. Yay capitalism.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 months ago
to convert their source of income into land for trees?
The correct trees are income. Less than other sources. But I spose that is where gov needs to step in. But well managed wood cultivation is both CO2 absorbing and would reduce the huge transport harm imported wood causes.
Also, wood is getting insanely costly in the UK due to import costs. It may help other industries.
FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 2 months ago
Subsidise orchards like we do open farm land?
(I am not good enough at this law to know if orchards get the farming subsidies, happy to be informed by Lemmy people)
rah@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Orchards are very different from woodland. Trees need to be evenly planted and have much more space than woods. Probably better than nothing but it’s not the kind of CO2-sink woodland the CCC is talking about.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Nor am I. But Do know pre Brexit the EU was funding actual wood land. That is a huge part of the issues farmers have now.
The huge farm subsidies the EU provided were still not replaced or agreed to long after Brexit. I’m not sure if they ever were at all. But farmers were forced to change growing habits with no idea what the gov was going to support.
It was a huge part of way £350m a week was an outright lie. Not only were we not actually sending that much due to discounts. We got a huge chunk back via farm subs.