Teenagers hardly know who Nietzsche was, let alone claim his work to justify anything. The few who do know about him are not the ones living hedonistically.
Anon is a philosopher
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trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 3 months ago
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I don’t think you’ve been around teenagers in a while. They do know who he was, they just haven’t read any of his works and claim some wild bullshit.
hungprocess@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Taalnazi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
there can be a pursuit of happiness in spite of the collapse of religion
More like, thanks to the collapse. (And also if the economy were more social and people less far right!)
ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 3 months ago
Huh!
fckreddit@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Nietzsche particularly said that we should all strive to be the best versions of ourselves, something he called “uber-mensch” an idea, which I believe was hijacked by Nazis.
He was a nihilist, but he also urged everyone to create their own values and follow it to be the best you can be. But, then he was also a disgusting sexist. People are complicated.
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 3 months ago
He had a nazi sister who after his hijacked his ideas to gain nazi streetcred
Zozano@aussie.zone 3 months ago
His quote “God is dead” is supposed to indicate the genesis of nihilism.
Without a higher purpose, we fall into a belief that our lives are worthless.
However, we can find our own “god”, whether that be helping others, mastery of a skill, or finding contentment.
There are plenty of things to find value in, just because Nietzsche had a complete breakdown in the pursuit, doesn’t mean he’s wrong.
When I make the decision to stare at my phone while crossing the street, I may be a hypocrite, but it doesn’t make “look both ways before crossing” bad advice.
latenightnoir@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Nietzsche’s philosophy had a lot in common with Camus’s, the main difference being that Camus framed very similar ideas in a very “Pop!” and relatively hedonistic way (of the times, not necessarily his doing).
They both essentially focus on the absence of meaning and its tangible effects on the human psyche, while encouraging the individual to persevere in Individuating in spite of there being no pre-defined purpose for doing it - do the growth for growth’s sake, for your own soul’s sake, if you will.
Imo, they also differ in the fact that, I feel, Nietzsche also somewhat hinted at the human being taking up the reins of the God it killed, becoming godly unto itself. I don’t think this came out of a sense of superiority, rather that he felt we had a responsibility to pick up the works of the God we killed.
Camus just wanted us all to be Promethean offshoots, laughing our asses off in the face of God and doing our own shit.
fckreddit@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
"And I, too, felt ready to start life all over again. It was as if that great rush of anger had washed me clean, emptied me of hope, and, gazing up at the dark sky spangled with its signs and stars, for the first time, the first, I laid my heart open to the benign indifference of the universe.” this quote by Camus in “The Stranger” always get me. Points out the absurdism of searching for a meaning in this vast, complex and more importantly indifferent universe.
Of course, Nietzsche felt different. He thought we still had an obligation to do great.
To me personally, taoism seems to provide a happy middle ground. Do what you can, try what you want. In the end success or failure brings some pros and some cons. Life is all about navigating the water current. Sometimes, you take control and other times you let the water carry you. It is all about knowing when to do either.
dwindling7373@feddit.it 3 months ago
The overall depth of your comment warrant a request for sources…
AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Why? Who cares? It was like over 100 years ago at this point and like basically everyone was bigoted 100 years ago lmao.
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 3 months ago
Read one of his books