Barbenheimer Memes Provoke Angry Backlash in Japan

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• kibiz0r@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is one of the reasons it’s so weird and toxic to have brands posting on social media as if they were just “fellow users”.

  If a random user posts some Barbenheimer content, I can grant that person the dignity of being a full human who probably has complex, conflicting feelings about the Manhattan Project, and some kind of ironic detachment yet fascination with the existence of the Barbie movie.

  If WB posts (or comments on) it, there’s really no room for nuance. They want engagement, they want money. If there is (or was) irony or self-criticism embedded in the content, that fact is only incidental.

  So then WB gets rightfully scorned for casually dismissing war crimes to get more attention to their properties.

  But where does that leave the rest of us?

  Cuz the implication is that individuals shouldn’t be posting Barbenheimer stuff, either… but that doesn’t feel right.

  There’s something culturally meaningful to this meme, that we probably shouldn’t quash — but it also shouldn’t be crudely leveraged for profit.

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  • beefcat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Some of the backlash cited in the article seems out of touch, this in particular:

    User @akishmz tweeted: “Summer to remember that to the Barbie film team and to Hollywood more than 200,000 death by the end of 1945 (and half a million so far) by two atrocious bombs are something they feel comfortable joking about to promote their precious summer blockbuster.”

    I must have missed the part where these memes are making jokes about the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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    • THED4NIEL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I must have missed the part where these memes are making jokes about the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

      Simple: It doesn’t.

      Barbenheimer, also known as Barbie Heimer, is a portmanteau of the words “Barbie” and “Oppenheimer” in reference to the 2023 movies Barbie and Oppenheimer, which were released on the same date (July 21st, 2023), causing a slew of Barbie vs. Oppenheimer memes that humorously combined the contrasting aesthetics and themes of both films. In turn, the word “Barbenheimer” spawned on social media and gained its own traction in memes and viral discourse, mostly in reference to the act of doing a double feature of both films. Many Barbenheimer memes and fan art used images that were both pink and black (correlating with the color palettes of both films), as well as images that involved both explosions and girly aesthetics.

      It’s just a typical case of taking a thing and getting riled up about it, without making a simple Google search, what the thing you don’t like is even about.

      Seeing they made 9/11 memes to retaliate against Americans already, why not keep barbenheimer? Tea is already spilled on both ends, everybody is unhappy, that’s a compromise for ya

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  • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Very well said.

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• LZamperini@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I give them permission to make one 9/11 joke.

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  • potterpockets@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My apology on this matter is scheduled for the same press conference where Japan apologizes for what Imperial Japan did.

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    • zzmthesurand@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They’re in it too deep now. It’d be weird to suddenly apologize for events that happened 80 years ago, even though they should.

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    • EhList@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mine is for the one where they apologize for making Nobuskue Kishi PM.

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  • ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Apparently they already did; the article doesn’t include an image but in my imagination it’s hilarious.

    Twitter user @mankodaisuki58 replied to the apology with a picture of Barbie sitting on the shoulders of Osama Bin Laden in front of burning buildings in the same style as one of the original posts. It is captioned “visiting the places from movie scenes” in Japanese and “It’s going to be a summer to remember” in English.

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• Reva@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Understandable honestly, in all seriousness. Germany (or Israel, or Poland) probably wouldn’t be that happy about Auschwitz jokes either if a movie about that came out around the same time as a new Shrek or something.

  The nukes were a mass genocide.

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  • EhList@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Japan was engaged in a ton of war crimes in WWII and later made one of the worst war criminals the PM. They later elected the grandchild of that same war criminal who celebrated his grandfather.

    Japan can complain all they want but no one should care about those complaints.

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  • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The nukes were a mass genocide.

    Uhhh no? They were a targeted show of force in order to end the war because Japan was never going to surrender otherwise. “Genocide” implies America was trying to erase the Japanese people entirely.

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• emptyother@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Understandable really.

  I do miss the time we could joke about something in a faraway land, and by the time it reached them many months later by word of mouth it would have mutated into something more culturally acceptable. We should never have invented the printing press.

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  • kibiz0r@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are you immortal?

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  • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    punching down is never funny

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    • emptyother@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Punching down? It was intended to be a relatively tame joke about the world have been small for quite a while, and pre-emptively make light of those who would think this “being too easily offended” is a relatively new thing. Im sorry if I failed to communicate this correctly.

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• MicTEST@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s … peculiar to me that Japan doesn’t think they need to teach the history of or ackowledge the war crimes they enacted on the Chinese, Koreans, etc.

  But how dare Americans make a movie about the doom of nuclear war.

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  • Danobc@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    One wrong doesn’t make the other right.

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  • THED4NIEL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The massacre on Nanking was a dire read

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• PabloPicasshole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They’re just sore losers.

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• jeanma@lemmy.ninja ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I am not japanese BUT I am pissed off by this such shitty, forced fun joke that you have to follow to show you are IN. A TheVerge level joke from weak, white guys and gals.

  “OK Boomer” “Ice bucket challenge” and so many dumb, silly trend.

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• sharkfucker420@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I kinda felt the same way, I went to see it with some friends and as a joke they wore some beachwear. It felt tasteless but I didn’t want to sour the mood by commenting on it

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• scurzon@rammy.site ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Bunch of pussies

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