What can I do if I think someone is downvoting all of my posts?

Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨support@lemmy.world⁩

I banned someone from a community I made for breaking a rule and being excessively rude, then they DM’d me and after a report their account got banned and I think that they might’ve made an alternative account and have been downvoting/disliking all of my posts. What can I do to stop/fix this, is there a way for me to see activity on my community as a moderator? Sorry if this doesn’t fit here, I don’t really know where else to ask this question. It’s a small community so any post I make will get buried when the moment I make the post it gets downvoted.

I haven’t ruled out that this could just be coincidence but if I can do something about it I’d rather know.

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slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
First and foremost, they are fake internet points. You should not be caring about votes.

Instance admins can pole the database to get that info but I doubt you can as a community mod.

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- BettyWhiteInHD@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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  - Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes thank you. The YouTube dislike situation is a perfect example of this and why it’s more than just the “internet points” for me.
    
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- Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I mean it is what it is, I’m not invested in the points I just don’t like the idea that someone is hurting the discoverability of my posts.
  
  But like yeah, whatever I guess.
  
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  - slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It is weird that people are petty about that sorta thing. You got banned, big whoop, make a new account an move on with your life.
    
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- estoypoopin@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Honestly, I’m really tired of this take. Humans are social creatures, it is normal to care about what others think of us and our contributions to the social fabric. Would you stay in a community where you were only ever downvoted because ‘you shouldn’t care about votes’? That sounds psychotic, or trolling. If somebody followed a stranger down the street shouting you suck every minute, would you tell them they shouldn’t be caring about that?
  Not to pick on your comment specifically, I see this phrase all over and I know the intent is not to let online stuff affect your real life/determine your happiness. But the phrasing make it sound like people are crazy to care to care at all, when for the majority of human development the opposite is true and you be crazy not to.
  
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  - HellAwaits@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Honestly, I’m really tired of this take. Humans are social creatures, it is normal to care about what others think of us and our contributions to the social fabric.
    
    Sure, but if someone started caring about every little thing someone did to them, it would only give the instigators exactly what they want and thus further exacerbating the problem. Some people just need to grow thicker skin. That’s reality.
    
    Would you stay in a community where you were only ever downvoted because ‘you shouldn’t care about votes’? That sounds psychotic, or trolling. If somebody followed a stranger down the street shouting you suck every minute, would you tell them they shouldn’t be caring about that?
    
    100% false equivalence. If you think being downvoted on an internet forum is the same as public disorderly conduct/harassment, you don’t need more forum moderation, you need therapy.
    
    But the phrasing make it sound like people are crazy to care to care at all, when for the majority of human development the opposite is true and you be crazy not to.
    
    No one but you said that. It’s OK to care, but to the level that you’re describing is actually psychotic. People shouldn’t care that much because if you did, then it’ll just be a matter of time before something else that is very insignificant will also bother you. It’ll just be a habitual thing for you at that point. It’s better to deal with your insecurities now before they get worse. It’s downvotes FFS. You’ll be OK, I promise.
    
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  - Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    If somebody followed a stranger down the street shouting you suck every minute, would you tell them they shouldn’t be caring about that?
    
    Kind of already happens/been happening?
    
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Izzent@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Ignore it.

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- Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah, I have been but it’s annoying that it’s almost all my posts. Like a fly buzzing around your head, there’s only so much you can ignore.
  
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  - Izzent@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Well then if you can’t ignore it, make a new account.
    
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Rand0mA@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
They will get bored after a week or so.

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- Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Hope so, this guy was really pretty terrible for no reason so like idk.
  
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PriorProject@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
There have been other reports of this recently:

sh.itjust.works/post/1984538

lemmy.world/post/2343398

Downvotes on kbin are public, but kbin doesn’t federate downvotes from Lemmy so unless the stalker(s) are on kbin you can’t see them yourself. You profile on kbin looks significantly cleaner than your Lemmy profile… so it doesn’t tell us much.

Votes in Lemmy’s DB are also not anonymous, so instance admins (or people who run their own instance) could investigate this with direct db queries… it’s not exposed via any user-facing API. If you think you’re being stalked by a group of sock-puppeted mass-downvote accounts, you could contact the admins via one of the mechanisms listed at mastodon.world/about. The email there points to a ticketing system used by the admins I think. Of course, they may be too busy to investigate, but they also may be interested in banning sock-puppets before it gets out of hand.
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- Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is so extremely helpful, thank you so much. I hope you sleep on the nice cool side of the pillow tonight.
  
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- Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That’s really weird actually… I’m browsing my posts both here on Lemmy and on Kbin and there’s a serious discrepancy between the two like take this very post for example, on Kbin I see 25up and 6down whereas on Lemmy I see 26up and 19down. The upvote difference I think is attributed to the fact that Lemmy give you 1up by default and from the looks of things, Kbin doesn’t. What I don’t understand is the difference in downvotes, there’s 13down that aren’t being accounted for on Kbin, I wonder why… 🤔 And it’s not just this post, it’s a lot of my posts, one I made on the Mass Effect community has 17up and 1down on lemmy.world/post/2388125 and on Kbin it’s sitting at 1up and 0down also of note, the amount of comments is off, Kbin has 14 and Lemmy has 18. Very odd. I presume if it’s happening to me, then it’s probably happening to others as well.
  
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  - PriorProject@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Kbin doesn’t federate downvotes from Lemmy, and I believe it has a smaller user population than Lemmy (or at least one that generates fewer total downvotes). So you’d expect downvote counts to be wildly different.
    
    On upvote counts, federation is just real flaky right now. I don’t have GitHub issue links handy, but there are several major issues detailing posts, comments, and votes Federating unreliably. You can pretty easily extrapolate that to expect vote counts to vary by 20%-60% from server to server depending on how many federation messages a particular server decided to drop on the floor on any given day.
    
    Lemmy is pretty cool, but it’s a lot rough around the edges right now. It’s improving fast, but if you break out the magnifying glass, you’re gonna find problems.
    
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Teon@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I just scrolled through 4 days of your posts, and none of them are downvoted.
Maybe the vote system is messed up again.

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- Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  🤔 That’s strange, what are you using to view the instance? On desktop at least when viewing the activity breakdown 95% of my posts from the past 2 days have 1 dislike. But maybe you’re right.
  
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  - Teon@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I'm on Kbin, using desktop/browser. And I did see that there was 1 downvote I missed here, https://kbin.social/m/videogamebutts@lemmy.world/t/261506/In-Game-Street-Fighter-VI-Lily/votes/down
    We can see downvotes on kbin, not sure lemmy is the same. But only on the threads you start.
    
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hal_5700X@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Nothing. 🤷‍♂️

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- Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Well at least I asked I guess. 🤷‍♂️
  
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  - hal_5700X@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Will you can find proof and show it to the admins. Outside of that, there’s nothing you can do.
    
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