What type of scam is this?

Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Mothra@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

Many times I’ve received enquiries through Artstation which are obviously fake.

The ones that puzzle me are always some RandomUnremarkableName + Number saying they’re thrilled about my work and want to purchase it. No links, no job offers, no nothing.

Real people always give context as to which piece they want and why or something. I just ignore these weird generic fishy ones and move on.

So what’s the deal with this? Are they just hoping to get my email address so they can sell it as part of a spam mailing list? Or is there something else?

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RegalPotoo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Typically you won’t have real people harvesting emails for sale - it’s much easier to get addresses in bulk by hacking services and dumping their databases - and you get password hashes as well, which makes it a much better value proposition for the time it takes.

Off the top of my head, a couple of things that it could be:

Simple stolen card fraud - buy something small with a stolen credit card to prove it works before using it for a higher value purchase. Something where you don’t need to worry about a physical product getting delivered somewhere would be great for this

Escrow fee fraud - commission something small, then use that as a hook to promise a much larger commission, except that they want to use some off-site service to “reduce the fees”, then "oops the money has been flagged as maybe fraudulent and you need to pay a fee to get it released"

Money mule recruitment - again, small commission (using a stolen card) to establish a relationship, then come to you with a great job opportunity where they will send you some money via western union or something, and all you need to do is send it on to someone else, and you get to keep a cut. The catch is you are actually handing stolen funds or helping someone evade international sanctions, and you end up in prison
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- Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Thanks! I see, these make sense.
  
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MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The “RandomUnremarkableName + Number” username format is a clear indicator of the type of person that has very low morals and is quite possibly a scammer or worse. Stay clear of those at any cost.

Unless you want to do crime or hook up. (DM me).

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ArbiterXero@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Here, let me pay you $700 for this item that’s worth $500 and you can just send me the extra $200 difference. I have to do it this way because it’s your father’s, brother’s, nephew’s, cousin’s, former roommate’s will and I’m just signing the whole check off to you.

Meanwhile the original check is fake and now you’ve lost the original item AND $200 and the bank is investigating you, and not them.

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- cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  can you legally accept the check and tell the scammer you are gonna wait until the check fully clears?
  
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  - ArbiterXero@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes, but since you deposited a fake check, they’ll freeze all your bank accounts while they audit and investigate you and everything you do.
    
    It’s very unpleasant.
    
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workerONE@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
In the 2000s I worked in IT and we hosted a spam filter. Back then people would send out seemingly harmless email, about Jack’s golf game or the picnic on Sunday, and their goal was to build up their domain’s reputation as a legitimate sender. Then one day they’ll send out spam and it’ll get through the filter until the spam filter catches on and cuts off that domain.

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bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
IMO if the scam angle isn’t obvious, it’s probably pig butchering.

But if the message specifically says they want to buy something from you, I’d be more inclined to guess that it’s some form of refund scam, or maybe a con specifically targeting people with a side hustle.

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- thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Pig butchering?
  
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  - bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Pretend to make friends with someone after a “wrong number” text, eventually convince them “as a friend” to download a “crypto investing” app which actually just siphons money directly to scammers. John Oliver did a good segment on it.
    
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pelya@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s just bots bypassing bot filter. Most platforms now restrict activity of new user accounts to combat spam, so bot farms create new accounts, create some spam posts, wait two-three months until these accounts become unrestricted, then post some political ads en masse.

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- Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That surely is a thing on platforms but I don’t think that’s the case here. I don’t think you have new user restrictions on AS, and even if you did you don’t need to ask about purchasing to achieve that goal. You might as well just send a short generic message saying how cool my work is and how much you like it and leave it at that. There is clearly a hook in my case scenario prompting the recipient to reply, + ambiguous business, and this in turn increases the risk of someone reporting their account. Why risk it if you don’t even need a reply in the first place?
  
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chameleon@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Pretty much every form of these scams is some kind of advance fee fraud. Two more possible avenues:

"Upgrade to a business account". They send you an email purporting to be from the payment provider you used saying you need to upgrade to business to receive a payment that large, and the upgrade page is a fake website run by the scammer that asks for a "refundable deposit" or the like (with a little helping of credit card fraud and of course a business account will require all kinds of personal info useful for identity theft too).

"But I want it as an NFT" was popular for a bit, they want you to "pre-pay the minting fee but it's ok I'll add it to your payment" and then they disappear. Not sure this scam is popular nowadays because NFT screams scam to just about everyone for a lot of different reasons. But "rich guy spends $5000 on dumbass NFT" was a legitimate genre of news for a little moment and not many people having trouble putting food on the table would say no to that.

It's all preying on someone that thinks they got an easy paycheck for work that they've already done, on a populace of artists that could really use said paycheck to pay for food and are thus willing to overlook weirdness or principles. They also tend to pick on newer and younger artists that haven't quite figured out how to run a business yet, hoping that they haven't heard of scams specifically targeted to their sector.
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