How The Forbidden Fruit Became an Apple

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• CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Interesting stuff!

  Theres early christian iconography revolving around mushrooms as well, so ive wondered if the “forbidden fruit” aka “fruit of knowledge” was originally a psilocybin mushroom.

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  • specialistdrunk@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sounds like a JRE episode

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  • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nobody calls mushrooms fruit

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    • WhiteHairSuperSaiyan@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The head of a mushroom is a fruiting body. I know that is a huge distinction but could be confused pretty easily. Especially if there is some translation fun between.

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    • CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Metaphors exist.

      Unless youre trying to tell me everything in the bible is literal?

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• lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Regarding Latin malum: people often have the impression that the word specifically means “apple” due to a bunch of crappy Latin textbooks. It’s messier though, and the video is correct - it could be used to refer to any type of fruit, although in the absence of context you’d “default” to apples. This can be shown through synchronic evidence, like Apicius 4.3.4:

  4. MINUTAL MATIANUM. […] Media coctura mala matiana purgata intrinsecs concisa tessellatim mittes. […]\
  5. Matian’ Mince. […] While cooking, add [to the pot] Matian fruits (=apples) that had their cores removed and cut into pieces.

  If “mala” was enough to refer to apples, why is the author specifying that those need to be “mala matiana”?

  Diachronic evidence shows the same. Using Portuguese for the examples:

  • mala matiana “Mattius’ fruit(s)” → maçã "apple"
  • mala romana “Roman fruit(s)” → romã “pomegranate”

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• HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s some ai generated bullshit cover photo. Therefore no way wasting time watching it

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  • amotio@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How does this cover differ from someone making it in photoshop (like most covers)? AI is in this case just useful tool IMO.

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• Marighost@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Interesting video. I think I’ve heard of it as an apple growing up in a Christian household.

  Semi related, but I enjoy the Gnostic interpretation of the Forbidden Fruit story, in which the Serpent (aka Lucifer) tempts Eve with the fruit of knowledge to achieve Gnosis, so she may learn the true meaning of their existence (the understanding that God is not their true creator). This paints Lucifer as the hero and God, or Yaldabaoth in Gnosticism, as the villain.

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