Public satisfaction with NHS falls to lowest level on record

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• Mr_Blott@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Poor access to GPs, long waits for hospital treatment, staff shortages and a lack of Government funding

  So basically it’s not a dissatisfaction with the NHS, but with the evil fuckers that are trying to drive it into the ground so they can make huge profits on healthcare?

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  • symthetics@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah it’s hard not to think this isn’t by design. Pretty much every government has taken this approach too, I think it was Blair that started PFIs for example. Could be wrong.

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• steeznson@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Was forced to go private to get my partner’s IUD replaced recently. Her existing one had expired and we tried for months to use the NHS booking system that had worked for us 5 and 10 years ago. Checking daily, no appointments.

  Why are we paying taxes for the NHS if we need to drop £700 on a procedure that ought to be free? Ditto with dentists.

  This is european levels of taxation for US levels of public service. Maybe we need to look at what France and Germany are doing with their system and copy them.

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  • myliltoehurts@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve started seeing private health insurance on job adverts as a benefit more and more as well recently… Which feels alarmingly US-like as well.

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  • stsquad@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We have a lower tax burden than most of Europe, or at least the ones with decent healthcare. data.oecd.org/tax/tax-revenue.htm

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    • myliltoehurts@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That could be part of the reason, but the NHS has rapidly deteriorated over the course of the last 5ish years. It used to be pretty decent not so long ago, and our taxes didn’t exactly drop. So while most public healthcare systems get strained over time due to the aging population problem, it shouldn’t be this drastic.

      The pandemic has surely strained it, but it doesn’t feel like it’s on the path to recovery, more like circling the drain.

      The 2 more obvious things (to me) as far as the reasons go: an absolutely malicious government - who would sell us all for meat if they could - with little competition and brexit (courtesy of said government)

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    • steeznson@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you look at the tax on personal income on that graph we are above France and the OECD average.

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  • palordrolap@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Our blue powers-that-be are talking about getting rid of National Insurance as swing-voter catcher for the next election (whenever that might be). NI underpins many things, including the NHS.

    Now there's something about only a small percentage of NI going to the NHS, but who's behind that exactly? Oh. Blue people again.

    And then they say "See! See how rubbish the NHS is! It cannot work! Go private! What's that? You don't have money? Get a better job! Go private! It's easy! This has nothing to do with ideology and we certainly haven't been actively making the NHS worse! Go private! We have shares in private! Oops shouldn't have said that! Vote for us!"

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    • stsquad@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      NI is just another tax that goes into the total pot, albeit one that is not progressive and adds to the cost of employment. I’d be happy with it being scrapped and it all going on income tax, perhaps with a scaled employer contribution component. How about the employer contributes a scaled percentage for all employees over the median income for the company?

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  • JoBo@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe we need to look at what France and Germany are doing with their system and copy them.

    They’re funding theirs.

    The Tories (and Labour) are trying to privatise ours. Which obviously won’t make it any cheaper because idle shareholders will be siphoning off a hefty chunk into the tax havens that neither the Tories nor Labour will shut down. In the meantime, they’re pulling the same trick they did with British Rail: underfund it until it’s easy to kill off and sell cheap to their rich backers so they can charge us more for less.

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    • stsquad@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      European systems have quite a bit of private provision but they are still generally single payer and heavily regulated. Private involvement in healthcare doesn’t automatically involve what they created in the USA.

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  • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe we need to look at what France and Germany are doing with their system and copy them.

    Non starter, sorry. Mention the P word in the same sentence as the NHS and get wrecked. It’s so stupidly dumb, but it’s not even a viable topic to discuss. It’s one below a hate crime.

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    • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because it’s nearly always done disingenuously. The Tories say this and then get US health companies ready for a fire sale. They have been running down the NHS, “starving the beast”, to try and reduce public support for it so they can sell it. (To their US mates)

      The reality is France and Germany have put more in for longer, so got more.

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• riodoro1@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What do you mean, the king and princess are getting the best care possible.

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• BrightCandle@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Its notable its not listing Long Covid at all. The 1.9 million long haulers in the UK have all been treated atrociously by the NHS so far, most have been misdiagnosed and gaslighted and the rest have been abused with graded exercise therapy that has worsened their disease. But then this was a poll by the NHS so it likely wasn’t one of the answers available.

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