I agree with this.
Should this not be up to the parents to decide? Don’t parents have a right to decide how they raise their children?
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill that bans children under 14 from having social media accounts
Submitted 8 months ago by wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee to conservative@lemm.ee
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/florida-ron-desantis-signs-bill-social-media-kids-ban-rcna144950
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ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
breadsmasher@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Why are republicans telling others how to raise their children? Why are republicans trying to make a Big Government State that controls the lives of citizens?
Why do republicans hate freedom?
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Because kids need to be protected. Its why they cant drink booze or drive or do much of anything.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Why are republicans telling others how to raise their children?
They’re not. This bill still allows parents to create social media accounts for their kids.
jimbolauski@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The law prevents children under 14 from creating accounts & children 14&15 from creating accounts without their parents consent. Parents can create accounts and give access to their children. The parents can still decide.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Fuck off with this crap. This is a parental decision.
sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
theverge.com/…/florida-desantis-social-media-age-…
[It] does require websites to give users the option of “anonymous age verification,” which is defined as verification by a third party that cannot retain identifying information after the task is complete.
Its not anonymous if you have to give up anonymity to complete the process.
Also seems ripe to use as a poor tax. How many Lemmy instances could survive a 10-50k fine per offense? The NetChoice gang can afford to fight, and if they lose, implement this.
Just to be clear, I’m not arguing for children on social media. This is just not the way. If the authors of this bill actually gave a shit, they would be fighting for living wages and less work so families can actually spend time together.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Also seems ripe to use as a poor tax. How many Lemmy instances could survive a 10-50k fine per offense?
I would say zero. I have not read the bill, I’m not sure how they are defining social media or if they have guard rails to protect something like lemmy. That is a good point though
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I read about the fine more and if I read it correctly, it is really strange. The youth would be able to sue to get the money.
That means people could create fake accounts and bombard the sites with lawsuits.
I’m not a fan of that. I’ll have to find a better source and verify that I read that correctly.
sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Same conclusion in my research. All these bullshit bills are erosions of privacy and/or a poor tax. CISPA, SOPA, PIPA, CASE, KOSA, etc…
intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It’s anonymous from the perspective of the website.
You have a trusted third party check the ID, so you don’t have to hold that ID data.
It’s kind like Stripe for credit card processing. You can integrate Stripe into your website and they handle all the credit card details in a way your server never has to see those credit card details.
sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I understand the protocol. If I have to reveal my identity at any point during a transaction to any party, it is not anonymous. It may maintain some privacy between me and the content owner, but my activities are no longer anonymous.
“I need privacy, not because my actions are questionable, but because your judgement and intentions are.”
This goes for corporate and state level actors. I don’t trust Daddy Government or the age verifier to have my best interest in mind when they can start building a profile on the content I consume they deem not suitable for minors.
There may be a specific flavour of a zero knowledge proofs that works to maintain anonymity. Like, I’d rather pay with monero, and I do so when I can, than stripe for this very reason. My payment activity is decoupled from my real identity used to purchase the monero from a KYC institution.
That is not what this bill is proposing, so its not anonymous.
BeyondCopper@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Classic small government conservatism.
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Conservatives: you can’t remove my comment, I have a right to free speech!
Also conservatives: these people shouldn’t be allowed to exercise the same free speech rights as me.
Conservatives: Nanny-state Democrats are trying to tell you how to raise your kids!
Also conservatives: we really need to tell these people how to raise their kids.
It seems that conservatives just think they should be able to tell everyone else what to do.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
You used a whole lot of words to say nothing of value.
Specifically what do you disagree or agree about ?
Studies have shown social media is damaging to the mental health of children. As such young children shouldn’t be overly exposed to it.
…clevelandclinic.org/dangers-of-social-media-for-…
breadsmasher@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ill ask it in a much clearer way.
Republicans scream and shout about “Democrats telling parents how to raise their kids.”
Republicans are now banning kids from social media. Sure, thats a good step.
But how do you respond to the hypocrisy of “republicans can tell parents how to raise your kids”?
Isn’t the republican view “its up to the parents how they raise their kids”, so why are republicans now celebrating telling parents they aren’t allowed to let their children on social media?
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Your inability to refute my simple point is your problem, not mine. I will not be wasting time with someone who is dishonest in every interaction.
Maybe ban me again? That seems to be your MO for when you show your ass.
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Note how we didnt remove your comment, but engaged with it instead.
13 year olds dont really belong on the internet, especially social media like TikTok or Lemmy. Plus demanding 13 year olds listen to you when they arent in your care is really fucking weird.
Child abuse laws exist for a really good reason. So does the drinking age, and smoking. Why should this be any different?