So, what gun control would have stopped the Kansas City shooting?

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• Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What “expanded” or “universal” background check applies to stolen handguns? Maybe, maybe, you could find something that would have prevented Miller, who is 18, from possessing a gun, but it was Mays, with his stolen firearm, who began shooting first. So, where are we now?

  Well I’m not really a gun control guy in the normal sense but this seems like a deliberately obtuse question. By obtuse I mean stupid. If there were less guns laying around everwhichywhere then there’d be less guns for the stealing. That doesn’t seem so hard to grasp, but apparently some are mystified.

  It seems the argument here is that crime and violence cannot be legislated out of existence. This is like saying (and I’m not sure if this is a strawman,): All desease can’t be cured, therefore doctors are useless!" What I mean to say is that it’s a stupid all-or-nothing argument. There’s no possibility of reducing death and violence, there’s no room for compromise. But that’s American politics these days, don’t compromise on nothing, never.

  I am probably in the minority, but I don’t think the issue should be framed as either/ or.

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  • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not sure where you came to that conclusion. After a shooting the left always screams we need more laws.

    As such, the question is what law would have stopped this? It’s logical step from we need more to which laws are you suggesting.

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    • Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not sure where you came to that conclusion. After a shooting the left always screams we need more laws.

      I come to that conclusion because after a shooting the right always insists there’s nothing wrong here, everything is as it should be.

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• HelixDab2@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Let’s ask a similar question: what measures to oppose illegitimate voting would have stopped Trump from being elected in 2016?

  Wait a second though, wouldn’t denying the right to vote to a wide swatch of people be unconstitutional? Sure, if you want to prevent certain terrible people from being elected and the only tool you’re trying to use is regulating voting, then you’re going to have to prevent people with certain ideological views from voting. But wouldn’t that go against the core principles of the US constitution…?

  So what would have worked, if you don’t want to touch voting rights, or eliminate civil rights regarding speech and press?

  That’s a bit harder, isn’t it?

  So, let’s try this again: if you want to prevent gun violence, what would work that doesn’t infringe on constitutionally guaranteed civil rights?

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  • Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My first impulse was to answer “education,” but people are willful. So probably not even that.

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    • HelixDab2@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Interestingly, education does a pretty good job of reducing violence.

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