Comment on if you are a doctor or registered nurse, what's the point of manipulating a patient to stay at your unit even if he wants to leave against medical advice?

credo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• sxan@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I guess you could also ask what’s the reason for working at a suicide hotline? Seems similar enough in many cases.

  They aren’t similar, though, are they? OP’s hypothetical is that someone came for help, got some advice about care, and said “no.” In the hotline case, someone’s actively reaching out for help. They start the same, but in the case of your hotline, the caller can hang up at any time and pull the trigger; you can’t trap them on the phone.

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  • credo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wow. Who said any thing about trapping. Both you an OP are dancing across the line of opposing arguments:

    A cognizant patient is above all a free person. A free person is free to accept and to deny care, whatever may come.

    I don’t understand the logic playing mental gymnastics to make a patient stay at a unit

    You can’t make a patient stay unless they are mentally incompetent, a minor, or in a state where leaving could pose a threat to safety. This would likely require a court order. The patient is always free to simply leave.

    So… both of your arguments boil down to, “Why should medical professionals care?”

    In finished with this thread.

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    • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      if a patient goes to a hospital and is suicidal they almost always are made to stay because they are deemed “a threat to their safety”.

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      • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, suicidal people are a risk to themselves, and sometimes others too. My aunt almost died when a suicidal person veered head on into her car. Hospitals are right to hold people through crises.

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