Comment on Saint Luigi

• theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Out of California, New York, Massachusetts? Lol, yea right.

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  • Dragon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Maybe. It’s worth trying.

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• ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Why? UHC is cheaper than the current system. You wouldn’t need any extra taxes.

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  • TheRagingGeek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Really shows me how traumatized I am by United Health Care when I see UHC and it immediately brings them to mind and not Universal. I had to put in some work to understand that Acronym

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  • Dragon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s only cheaper if you consider current healthcare costs. It would require tax increases, and under current progressive tax models, those would be disproportionately high for the upper class, for whom the increase would not offset the elimination of their healthcare premium.

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    • ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      No, the sum of all premiums paid by all Americans is way more than is required. You could make it a flat tax and it’d still be cheaper.

      The tax increase is more than offset by the cost of premiums.

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      • Dragon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That may be the case, but do you have any evidence or reasoning? There are a certain number of people right now who don’t have insurance or who have very bad insurance, and a universal insurance would have to have to make up what’s missing for those people.

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    • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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      • Dragon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I said under current progressive tax models.

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    • TheRagingGeek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah we need to deflate the disproportionately high pricing of the health care caused by insurance as well, if we could get it at the national level we could eliminate a lot of the back office overhead, and then maybe negotiate a revisit of the master charge list so that Tylenol in hospital isn’t something crazy like $250 dollars a dose. State by state this would probably be much more difficult.

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• Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yeah, Jersey is nicely blued, but beholden to big pharma, and I think messing with healthcare hits too close to home. Governor race is next year though and so hopefully this issue stays hot.

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