Gently recommending that he may not embody your/our political grievances in reality.
Comment on Saint Luigi
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks agoDownvoted for AI. Luigi would be very disappointed in the use of a tool built by exploiting and abusing the working class.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Obviously. But we’re talking about a made-up saint here, not the actual man himself.
In the same way that I didn’t actually bother downvoting, I figured it was in the spirit of the meme to present it the same way people attribute their values to Jesus.
But it is important to remind people how these current iterations of generative AI are damaging to the livelihoods of working-class people. The goals of the companies making these are the same as UHC - the violence is just more silent and slower paced.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thanks for explaining, I wasn’t on that page. Not used to thinking in terms of fictionalised personages in terms of current events.
Same page with regard to AI though, the point is well made. I’m all to familiar with slow violence.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
It’s easily missed, especially in the form of text. There’s too many people who believe crazier things to not take stuff at face value, I know.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
…it’s a meme
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Made using a tool created by stealing the effort of the working class. Giving it a pass is like giving Temu a pass on working conditions and pay because it’s just cheap garbage.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
There is no ethical consumption while living in capitalist society.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Image generators are not an essential resource. They’re a luxury. Using that as justification to keep doing a corporation and exploiting the working class just makes you a class traitor for convenience who doesn’t want to feel guilty about it. Like buying stuff from Amazon or Starbucks right now while their workers are both in the middle of massive strikes.
Some consumption is less ethical than others. If you wouldn’t buy stuff made in sweatshops, then why are you okay with putting artists in the same position? Until we get image generators that are open source and pay artists to use their work, we should stand with our fellow working class in solidarity.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s a tool. We can use it just like they can. Don’t start presuming and gatekeeping.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
It’s a tool made unethically. Just because corporations use sweat shop labor doesn’t mean we should, too. The Screen Actors Guild has been on strike for weeks now demanding contracts for jobs that ensure that their performances won’t be used to train AI models to replace them. Would you cross the picket line and use an AI Harrison Ford?
Open source LLMs or those trained on ethically sourced data are awesome. OpenAI saying that they would go bankrupt if they can’t steal copyrighted material for their training data is not. Unless they end up getting into trouble for pissing off Disney and going bankrupt. That would be hilarious.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I really respect this cut of the jib.
Gets me thinking…
None of us feel bad about “stealing“ movie stills to meme them up. The movie studios probably do happen to love it, so it’s not a good comparison, buttt… IDK, stealing for fun without profit incentive is okay in the meme world, wonder how we can analyze this new kind of theft.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
As somebody who almost went into the video game industry, I look at it the same way I look at people saying that you should buy a game “to support the devs” even if the company has all kinds of issues like not paying their workers well.
With games and movies, the workers already got paid. Whether you buy the game or not doesn’t affect the devs at triple A companies - they got paid before it shipped, and the same with movie actors. They did their job and got paid, so meme away without a care. In that sense, movies and games are the exact opposite of the generative AI issue. You wanna play the latest Ubisoft or Activision-Blizzard slop? Pirating it and somehow finding a way to slip the devs 20 bucks for the beer fund is far more helpful to them than paying $70+ for it at retail.
Memes are honestly the perfect content to make with generative AI. The only issue is that the software we have right now is made by companies taking the work of others and not giving them their due. We aren’t doing it with a profit incentive, but they are. Which puts us in a situation where people want the reward of making art without putting in the effort or paying somebody else to put in the effort. It’s like these companies are selling coloring books of stolen artwork. You can’t link back to the original artists (if you could even spot the style of one specific artist in the generated image), so you can’t even bring attention to them. Making a meme out of art posted on social media can actually be a great advertisement for the artist (so long as people know where and how to find them) because that’s often part of the reason why artists post their art on social media in the first place. They’re advertising their skills to people who want to commission artwork. When people repost art without a source, they can actively harm the original artist. I’ve seen tons of artists complain about how reposts of their work by bot accounts will get thousands of views and likes while the original post on their account will get like one hundred views.
The tech is great, but the companies making it aren’t. And by using it, you generate revenue for them and incentivize them to continue their malicious practices. Until we’re in a position where artists are being fairly compensated, we need to be mindful of where this stuff is coming from.
One of the companies that makes one of the big digital art programs partnered up with a website design company a few months ago that is using gen AI in their website template maker. But, this company has hired artists to make the stuff that they’re training the program on, and the artists get royalties out of it. That’s how it should be - the artists got paid for their efforts, they get the credit that they’re due, and nobody has to spend all day making stupid buttons for a website UI.