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frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoWe’re apparently not speaking the language. I’m a liberal, and I’m a socialist.
There are a bunch of folks in some of the skeevier corners of the fediverse that think Liberalism means Capitalism which they in turn view as the source of all evil.
Nevermind the fact that their political ideal has no real world equivalent aside from maybe Bhutan where the vast majority of people live like medieval peasants and their entire system of government exists to enrich a few elite off of the world’s most expensive tourism.
Yes, we typically consider liberalism (you all may know it as classical liberalism as well, it, too, counts as liberalism) equivalent to capitalism
We are leftists. This is what we stand against: Capitalism and the ownership of the means of production being owned by the ownership class.
In Lemmy, and I would say in the Fediverse in general, the population skews left. That means there are more terms to describe the spectrum. Mainstream media and social media label anyone centrist and towards the left as liberals. And of course the Far Right labels the same people as socialists scum.
My rubric for here in the fediverse is as follows. Liberals are generally referred to as capitalists and/or believe capitalism is still the best economic system that only needs minor reforms, along with social justice reforms. Tankies are generally the ones that want to enforce the social and economic reforms with an iron fist, even against the populace at large if necessary. Leftists are generally anarcho-something (socialist/communist), and believe major change is needed beyond the system we have in place now.
Again, that’s my rubric, and I’m sure other people have their own.
Pretty spot on observation!
Do you wish to end capitalism? If no, you are, in fact a liberal.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
Because
You
Don’t
Know
What
Either
Liberal
Or
Socialist
Means
TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Literally.
frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I don’t appreciate your condescending tone telling me that I don’t know what the words I use to describe myself mean. You can kindly fuck off with your misplaced elitism.
0nix_Zer0@lemmy.eco.br 4 weeks ago
No, like, you don’t know what that word means, dude, being a socialist is quite literally antithetical to being a liberal, what the fuck are you on about???
frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That makes no sense. So liberals are capitalists then conservatives are what… Socialists?