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redwattlebird@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Without capitalism, we’d all have the ability to swap out parts and create a phone for the purposes that we need. Some people want the best while others want the minimum, and most want something in between. Every part would be replaceable.

With capitalism, we have planned obsolescence without the ability to repair or replace parts and every conceivable thing to reap more money off us and force us to continually consume.

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nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I’m saying without the greed of capitalism we wouldn’t have phones to swap out parts. We would have very limited technology because the incentive to innovate is much less when you do it because you want to rather than earning extra resources to raise standards of living(greed). Not as many people will volunteering their entire lives to come up with new technology while living the same standard of living as a farmer.

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- redwattlebird@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I get what you’re saying but, respectfully, I think you’re incorrect. The field of science is not about capitalism but the goal of understanding everything around you. Aqueducts were not the result of capitalism. Russia won the space race. Innovations happen regardless. Capitalism drives innovation in specific directions.
  
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  - vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Also id argue that the creation of the smartphone is the result of market forces, which arent unique to and predate Capitalism by millenia. The bronze age collapse happened largely due to the collapse of the grand trade networks and markets that birthed the bronze age, most bronze age societies predate currency as we understand it outright.
    
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    nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Everything that happened before capitalism happened at an extremely slow pace. We might have smart phones without capitalism and therefore the industrial revolution… but how long? Centuries? Another millenia?
    
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- nomous@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  I’m saying without the greed of capitalism we wouldn’t have phones to swap out parts.
  
  This might be a hot take but I’m not sure we all need a phone in our pocket or that it’s inherently a good thing.
  
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