Comment on Interesting analogy

• Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Thing is, most likely Palestinians are descendants of Jews who lived in Palestine who over time converted to islam, (but not all, Christians and Jews still very much exist tho not sure about numbers) before 1918 the Jewish population was a 56,000 thousand and many of those were immigrants by 1939 they were almost half a million

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  • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And Jews that converted to Christianity under the Romans/Byzantines and then converted to Islam. Israel calls them Arabs to imply they migrated from the Arabian peninsula but that’s not what happened. They were arabized by Arabian rulers that migrated. It’s not like the berbers ceased to exist, but somehow Israel wants us to think the levant was mystically empty.

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    • Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s all it is, we don’t call the Europeans Romans and it’s the same with the middle east, did Arabs migrate around the world and we share some genetics with them? Sure but in reality it’s in the minority apart of the vast diversity of the genetics of one of the most diverse and ancient regions on the planet. My father used to tell me our ancestors were all Arabs who conquered into sindh and Punjab and settled there, which may or may not be true but in reality when I checked, it was below %5, my ancestors weren’t just Arabs, my ancestors were also Hindus, Sikhs, Jain’s, Zoroastrians, perhaps some Hellenism in there too along with many many many other cultures and religions, which is like a mosaic. Our eyes should be opened now that the western media and imperialism never died in ww1 or ww2 but in reality just changed forms. Do your own research, find primary sources and dig deep. Don’t become a nuthead type conspiracy theory but there is a lot of information and misinformation out there so critical analysis of information is one of the most vital skills you can have now

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      • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It was socially important to claim descent from the Arabs, so many overstated it and it became part of their family story regardless of the truth.

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  • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As you say, many families converted to Islam out of choice or simply left. Drag thinks maybe the original point was that Palestine has always been a place where Jews could live in peace. But Israel has never been.

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    • Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Palestine was a place for Jews to live in peace and personally the whole religion war is a smokescreen. You look at the stats you look at the footage and historical texts and historic Palestine was a multi faith and cultural society recognition as important to many faiths. It’s not my place to say but even after all this I wholeheartedly accept Jews in Palestine BUT the Jewish supremcist apartheid state is all of the most evil aspects of European colonialism and nazi Germany/american manifest destiny into one shitty little state. Israel has done nothing for anti semitism and may be the thing that resets the clock back to post Roman conquest levels of Jewish hatred if things don’t change. I don’t want that, all humans are humans and no people are a monolith. I pray for a multi faith Palestine with no supremacy of any people (tho Jewish right to return should be revoked and Palestine right to return established as their actually refugees while vast amount of Jews coming to Israel to settle are dual citizens.

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