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agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 6 days agoNo? Once reason restricts passion, the hierarchy collapses. An action that causes yourself mild pain, but pleasure of greater extent to others, is preferable to an action that causes many others pain even if it gives you pleasure personally. Reason demands you restrain yourself from the passions that would harm others. That’s not unilateral fealty. Axioms must be assumed, but the most powerful systems assume as few as possible, and leave most of the legwork to reason.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 6 days ago
Empathy is a passion. Without empathy, there’s no justification for helping others at your own expense.
Comment105@lemm.ee 6 days ago
It’s not exactly something everyone has. There are quite a few psychopaths and sociopaths and a huge amount of narcissists out there
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 6 days ago
Do you think there are more people with NPD than ASPD?
Comment105@lemm.ee 6 days ago
Rudimentary Google gives me ~6.2% vs. 0.2- 3.3%, why?
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
I disagree. Reason can take you there by virtue of justice or equality.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 6 days ago
How can pure reason arrive at any understanding of justice?
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
I am a sentient creature that feels pain and pleasure
Others appear to be sentient creatures that feel pain and pleasure
Pain is bad, so I should avoid inflicting it
You don’t need empathy as an axiom to derive it rationally