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givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

There is very limited data regarding clinical proof that the long term use of puberty blockers is 100% reversible

There is about 40 years of real life use, and I think a good 20 years of study before that?

How much data from clinical studies and real world use do you need to feel comfortable?

Many people don’t trust children to make decisions that could impact them for the rest of their lives

But the permanent effects of puberty blockers are negligible…

What do you think is permanent about them?

I don’t think you understand what Puberty Blockers are…

You seem to be wanting to ban something completely different.

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13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
The forty years worth of proof you are referring to is in almost all cases where the use was to block early puberty and then allow it to take it’s course at a normal age. I did mention this.

At the end of the day, I’m not pretending to be an expert in puberty blockers, I’m saying that sometimes children need to be protected from themselves.

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- givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  The forty years worth of proof you are referring to is in almost all cases where the use was to block early puberty and then allow it to take it’s course at a normal age.
  
  Which is what would happen if they decided not to go thru with transitioning as an adult…
  
  Which is what you said you’re worried about.
  
  Like, you’re still talking about something besid s puberty blockers:
  
  How much proof I would need is a tough question because it obviously requires testing on children and it’s an ethical issue.
  
  Lots of children go on puberty blockers, the reason they’re going on them doesn’t change how safe they are.
  
  At the end of the day, I’m not pretending to be an expert in puberty blockers,
  
  I’m saying you don’t seem to know what they are. The temporarily block puberty. That is it. You keep wanting to take it to a possible surgery later as an adult, and claim the blockers are a permanent and irreversible step towards that
  
  When that is just factually incorrect.
  
  It is not an opinion we disagree on. It is a fact and you are wrong.
  
  I’m saying that sometimes children need to be protected from themselves.
  
  Literally what puberty blockers are…
  
  So children don’t have to prematurely choose if they want to transition they take blockers until they are sure and mature enough to make that decision, which is almost always when they’re over 18.
  
  If they change their mind, they just stop taking blockers.
  
  I legitimately have no idea how to state it any plainer than this.
  
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  - 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    Which is what would happen if they decided not to go thru with transitioning as an adult…
    
    That is quite obviously an assumption. You are extrapolating data and although I see the logic of your statement, it’s bad science. The rest of your comment is based on this premise.
    
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    givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    What?
    
    You said:
    
    The forty years worth of proof you are referring to is in almost all cases where the use was to block early puberty and then allow it to take it’s course at a normal age.
    
    And I replied:
    
    Which is what would happen if they decided not to go thru with transitioning as an adult…
    
    If someone goes on puberty blockers, decides not to transition…
    
    Then that is:
    
    where the use was to block early puberty and then allow it to take it’s course at a normal age.
    
    You keep saying your issue is with puberty blockers, but the only complaints you have is minors transitioning.
    
    Since that doesn’t happen, you seem to be mad at blockers
    
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