Does the DMCA protect claimants against liability if they make incorrect or spurious claims?
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lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 week ago
As of now the site is already back.
The core of the problem is that there’s absolutely nothing effectively preventing companies from abusing IP claims to harass whoever they want.
At the very least, you’d expect claims being automatically dropped, when they’re coming from an assumptive party that already issued multiple confirmedly false claims; something like “you issued 100 wrong claims so we won’t listen to your 101s one, sod off”. But nah, there’s nothing like this…
As such, “your violating muh inrelactual properry, remove you’re contant now!!!” has zero cost, and a thousand benefits. Of course they’d abuse it.
The role of AI in this situation is simply to provide those companies a tool to issue more and faster claims, at the expense of an already low accuracy.
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 week ago
[Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor from any country following Saxon tribal law like USA. Take what I say with a grain of salt.]
As far as I know, in theory the victim of the bogus DMCA could sue the copyright troll for damages, including attorney fees and all that stuff. In practice, it would be the same as nothing, megacorp who hired the copyright troll would make sure that the victim knows its place.
millie@beehaw.org 1 week ago
I mean, there is. DMCA essentially protects content hosts from copyright claims. When they get a DMCA notice, they remove the material and inform the user whose material is removed. If they want to contest it, they can submit a counter notice denying the claim and basically saying “take me to court then”, with their contact info so a suit can be filed. At this point, if nothing is filed in a two week period, the host is free to consider the initial takedown notice void.
Sending a takedown notice under DMCA that’s knowingly false is perjury, which would presumably come up at the court hearing.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 week ago
The problem is that defending against a copyright troll in the court is an expensive headache, and the copyright troll has a whole army of lawyers to prove for sure that the Moon is made of green cheese. As such, even if the target knows that it’s a bogus claim, they still comply with the troll to avoid the court.
Sending a takedown notice under DMCA that’s knowingly false is perjury, which would presumably come up at the court hearing.
In theory, yes. In practice, good luck proving that the copyright troll knew it and acted maliciously.
merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
IP and copyright laws have been the bane of the internet. Not only stifling fair use but it has become nothing but weaponised for corporate warfare. the DMCA isn’t fit for purpose.
Quexotic@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Couldn’t it be weaponized right back at them. What’s stopping an individual?
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
An individual would risk corporate lawyers lobbing suits at them they don’t have nearly enough resources to fight. In that way, it’s much like other forms of activism: individual actions are easily singled out and retaliated against.
If a ton of people were to do so, however, they might have an impact. Either the registrar would have to take steps to limit who can submit them, which might conflict with some laws, or they’d invest a great deal of resources trying to sort out the legit ones. Trying to single out people for retaliation is hard when there’s enough of them. In this way, too, it is like other forms of activism:
There is strength in numbers. There is power in unity.
If, hypothetically, someone were to coordinate such actions in the style of a crowdsources DDoS, and they could get enough participants, they might get away with it.
Crotaro@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Sounds like a job for a group similar to Anonymous, just less focused on actual illegal activities and instead just playing out the legal methods of fighting against corporations.
Quexotic@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Interesting point. I’ll keep it in mind.
Apepi@dormi.zone 1 week ago
Getting sued for all your bananas by companies much richer than you.
Quexotic@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Fairnuff.