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• v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Forceful impregnation, constant pregnancy, kicked and beaten calves and their mothers, separation of calves from the mother and their killing. Shall I go on?

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    artificial insemination isn’t torture. cows aren’t kept constantly pregnant. kicking and beating cows isn’t part of husbandry. killing cows at the end of their useful life is fine.

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    • Evkob@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      artificial insemination isn’t torture.

      Doing so to a creature who can’t consent is pretty wack though.

      cows aren’t kept constantly pregnant

      Female mammals, including cows, produce milk as a result of pregnancy in order to feed their young. The dairy industry is for-profit, they’re not going to let their dairy cows have downtime from producing milk if there’s money to be made.

      kicking and beating cows isn’t part of husbandry.

      The meat and dairy industries have lobbied hard for ag-gag laws criminalizing photography on their farms after abuses have been discovered by undercover investigators and activists. It is undoubtedly a part of animal agriculture. Here’s a whole paper about it, if it interests you.

      killing cows at the end of their useful life is fine.

      It definitely isn’t the worse part of the miserable lives we make them live after breeding them in massive numbers. It’s probably a relief at that point.

      Also, just a sidenote here, I scrolled a bit through your history and you seem to go on the defensive for meat and dairy whenever you come across anything relating to veganism or the negative impacts of those industries. You engage with vegan content much more than I do and I’m vegan! I don’t think I can change your mind about veganism, nor do I really feel the desire to write any more than I already have. But, I don’t know, maybe go comment on stuff you enjoy rather than getting riled up about this stuff? It might make for a more enjoyable experience on lemmy.

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      • v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thanks for writing this up. I just knew they would get all defensive so I didn’t even want to bother replying, but I’m very happy about other people chiming in. vegoon btw ❤️

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        go comment on stuff you enjoy rather than getting riled up about this stuff

        I don’t tell you what to do. kindly return the courtesy.

        further, I’m not riled up but your screed indicates you might be.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        you seem to go on the defensive for meat and dairy

        your characterization is irrelevant to the truth of what I’ve said.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The meat and dairy industries have lobbied hard for ag-gag laws criminalizing photography on their farms after abuses have been discovered by undercover investigators and activists.

        and that’s bad

        but it’s still not necessary to kick cattle for milk

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Female mammals, including cows, produce milk as a result of pregnancy in order to feed their young.

        they don’t have any volition in the matter. they produce milk. period. but they’re not constantly pregnant.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Doing so to a creature who can’t consent is pretty wack though

        it’s a veterinary procedure

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