UHT does, 140C for 2-5 seconds. Shelf-stable without refrigeration for up to nine months unless you open it.
Frankly speaking the difference between milk from cows with good diet vs. from cows fed protein slop is greater than between the modes of processing.
Still have PTSD from my mother feeding me raw milk – unlike in the US it’s legal here, also heavily regulated so it wasn’t a health risk microbiology-wise but boy am I sensitive to even slight off-tastes in milk because yes you’re going to interrupt the cooling chain and no that fridge doesn’t have 8C. Unless you’re a cheesemaker or such and it’s necessary for the process, stay away from raw.
And, no, it doesn’t have health benefits. Maybe if your kid doesn’t play outside in the mud and the milk is the only source of germs they’re exposed to, then it may help them to not develop autoimmune disorders. Be sane, choose mud over milk.
Only time I’ve had raw milk was when I was a kid and visited farming friends, since they had a pitcher in the fridge from that days milking. They used it in cooking usually, but it wasn’t that bad to drink.
The laws regarding cow and milk health is way different in Sweden that most other countries though, very strict routines around testing. We can eat raw eggs from the store.
You know that exact kind of thing is why you’re known as arrogant swots all over Europe, don’t you? Do you google whether Denmark has safe tap water before going on ølviking?
If I’m in Denmark to drink beer I take the custom where I am. If the tap water isn’t good, I drink something else.
In my town we had a huge outbreak of cryptosporidium which poisoned all tap water in the city, so no matter regulations no place is guaranteed safe. That’s why you test stuff. If anyone find unhealthy results you need to contain, treat and inform to minimize damage and exposure risk
The reason we are known as arrogant swots is probably not our husbandry rules but our foreign policies that can be naive or straight up delusional (such as thinking chat control is net positive).
I don’t really know though since I have no possibility to leave my farm to travel, neither in time or monetary capabilities
barsoap@lemm.ee 1 month ago
UHT does, 140C for 2-5 seconds. Shelf-stable without refrigeration for up to nine months unless you open it.
Frankly speaking the difference between milk from cows with good diet vs. from cows fed protein slop is greater than between the modes of processing.
Still have PTSD from my mother feeding me raw milk – unlike in the US it’s legal here, also heavily regulated so it wasn’t a health risk microbiology-wise but boy am I sensitive to even slight off-tastes in milk because yes you’re going to interrupt the cooling chain and no that fridge doesn’t have 8C. Unless you’re a cheesemaker or such and it’s necessary for the process, stay away from raw.
And, no, it doesn’t have health benefits. Maybe if your kid doesn’t play outside in the mud and the milk is the only source of germs they’re exposed to, then it may help them to not develop autoimmune disorders. Be sane, choose mud over milk.
Droechai@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Only time I’ve had raw milk was when I was a kid and visited farming friends, since they had a pitcher in the fridge from that days milking. They used it in cooking usually, but it wasn’t that bad to drink.
The laws regarding cow and milk health is way different in Sweden that most other countries though, very strict routines around testing. We can eat raw eggs from the store.
Milk: livsmedelsverket.se/…/mjolkens-kvalitet---kontrol…
Eggs and birds:
jordbruksverket.se/djur/…/salmonella
www.livsmedelsverket.se/…/salmonella
barsoap@lemm.ee 1 month ago
You know that exact kind of thing is why you’re known as arrogant swots all over Europe, don’t you? Do you google whether Denmark has safe tap water before going on ølviking?
Droechai@lemm.ee 1 month ago
If I’m in Denmark to drink beer I take the custom where I am. If the tap water isn’t good, I drink something else.
In my town we had a huge outbreak of cryptosporidium which poisoned all tap water in the city, so no matter regulations no place is guaranteed safe. That’s why you test stuff. If anyone find unhealthy results you need to contain, treat and inform to minimize damage and exposure risk
The reason we are known as arrogant swots is probably not our husbandry rules but our foreign policies that can be naive or straight up delusional (such as thinking chat control is net positive).
I don’t really know though since I have no possibility to leave my farm to travel, neither in time or monetary capabilities
BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Interesting, I’m not well-versed in pasteurization techniques.
Sorry to hear about the raw milk PTSD. I’ve never had it, and don’t plan on it.
Thanks for giving me something (UHT) to look into.