Because then the applicant uses AI to apply for the job, and it’s just AI all the way down
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WhyFlip@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What’s the issue here? It’s literally making it easier to weed out unqualified individuals.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Why do you think an AI is in the position to know what makes a qualified individual? It probably rejects every resume it views as not fitting its standard template. Wanting to hire the next Einstein? Well too bad, he’s neurodivergent and he doesn’t write a resume the way the AI wants him to. Also, he has an “ethnic” name so that’s an automatic rejection.
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Do you think there’s enough information in the application to decide? If that information is there, then you shouldn’t categorically assume AI is being racist against Einstein. Personal review of resumes is notoriously rife with bias - you actually might want to consider that AI could be an improvement. The guy with the ethnic name might get a high AI score and actually get a second look. You don’t know the AI performs worse than humans in the things you care about. Be real: you have no information about that at all.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Believe it or not, we already know a lot of information about this issue. It’s just that no one gives a shit.
washington.edu/…/ai-bias-resume-screening-race-ge…
You clearly don’t or you would have looked it up first.
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Any comparison with how humans do with the same resumes in that article? Hm… nope.
The AI models are racist because they are trained in racist human generated decision sets. At least AI can be reprogrammed. Your own article concludes that this research should be used to improve AI.
WhyFlip@lemmy.world 3 months ago
There’s no template that is looked for in my company’s case. And it’s not black and white, accept/reject, rather it’s trained to score applicants on a predefined set of criteria set by my company. It’s used as a tool to basically sort the resumes from strongest to weakest, most applicable to least. Depending on how many resumes are received, all of them might still be reviewed by a human. We don’t and never have used a candidate’s name at any point in the review process.
“Neurodivergent” had to have been a front runner for 2024 word of the year.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
“Neurodivergent” had to have been a front runner for 2024 word of the year.
Are you suggesting that autism and ADHD are not real conditions?
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Do you seriously believe that human review of a neurodivergent person’s strangely composed resume is going to be any better? Have you ever sat down with a stack of resumes in your life? Managers will toss them in seconds without even reading them in full - at least AI will do that.
I think you’re just using neurodivergence as a way to take your miserably uninformed assumptions about how AI application review works, and legitimize them as a discrimination issue.
WhyFlip@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Not even sure why you’d even ask this as I never said any such thing. Of course ADHD and autism are real conditions.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
HR systems are already doing this before AI.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
And they trained the AI and now there’s no chance a non-racist human will look at the resume with companies doing this before it gets rejected.
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The people downvoting you refuse to recognize one simple fact: employers are absolutely drowning in unqualified applications for jobs. People completely ignore the requirements and apply anyway, or even install browser extensions that automatically fill out applications by the dozen. But oh! How dare the employer do anything but read all 600 applications and carefully read between the lines to consider applicants who have no experience but want a ‘career change!’ How dare they try to bin the worst 300 automatically!
In Japan, the culture around this is very different. People don’t apply for things unless they are highly qualified and meet the specific requirements. People tend to switch jobs less often and are more intentional about it. In the US it’s “I’m unemployed, time to spam.” This is despite the fact that for ever and ever, experts have been telling people “send fewer applications to more targeted jobs.” If you’re going this, great - no one else is.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Yeah, people are just kneejerk “I hate AI”, but this is one of the cases where it could actually be useful. HR doesn’t have time to trawl through all of your previous employers, but AI does.
fireweed@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Have you never heard of a “career change”?
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yes, though no one is obligated to help with one. Employers generally want directly relevant experience.
A career change takes more than cold online applications. It’s a situation where you need to network and take advantage take of any ins you can.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Yes, just network and find a job! Wow! Why didn’t I think of that?
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Are you scoffing at the idea of networking?