Comment on Live reaction to ICC ruling

_sideffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• cogman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “I mean, sure Israel is murdering thousands of children, expelling people from their homes, bombing a sovereign nation unprovoked, and Israel is bulldozing homes to make way for new settlements. But other nations do bad stuff too so this is obviously antisemitic”

  What’s antisemitic is conflating the actions of Israel with Jewish people. Jews aren’t inherently fascist and fascist Jews aren’t all Jews.

  This is also fucking disgusting as antisemitism is a real thing. Trying to conflate it with Israel critique makes people take antisemitism less seriously which is also dangerous.

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  • _sideffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thousands of children? Lmao Stop watching al Jazeera news

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    • cogman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh? What’s the official number? Perhaps you can report how many children Israel has counted.

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      • _sideffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How should I know? Go to Gaza and ask

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    • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Start watching any news. I would love to see any count that has the number of kids dead not in the thousands.

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      • _sideffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah I’m sure Hamas using human shields has nothing to do with children being killed as well.

        Damn IDF, why can’t they just accept to be shot at if there’s a human shield in the way! Hamas must live on

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• OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What about Putin? What about the Hamas guy in the same announcement?

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  • AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ICC is Hamas. Obviously.

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  • _sideffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hamas guy was dead. They knew what they were saying when they did it.

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• mhague@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Who cares about being antisemitic?

  I’m a proud antisemite; I think Israel shouldn’t commit genocide.

  I am a huge sinophobe; I think uyghurs shouldn’t be “reeducated.”

  I fucking hate Canadians; first nations got screwed.

  I hate all Arabs and muslims; kashnoggi shouldn’t have been cut into pieces.

  I hate white people; we need to fix inequality.

  I’m a traitor to my country; I think it could be improved.

  I’m a devil worshipper; I like D&D.

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  • IkarusHagen2@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is still no genocide committed by israel, it’s just hamas propaganda, you know, those guys who really committed a genocide on jewish people.

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    • Irelephant@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I would look up the definition of genocide. What hamas did was objectively bad, but not a genocide. What israel is doing is.

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      • IkarusHagen2@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah yes, going into israel to rape, kill and enslave jews for being jewish and destroying religional and cultural jewish places is not a genocide, got it.

        However, carrying out a well planned and structured militaty operation on hamas terrorists is one, oh well.

        Did you read the definition of genocide?

        the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. “a campaign of genocide” (the aim to destroy that nation or group is important here, hamas, hezbollah, houthis and iran want to kill all jews[nation or ethnic group], israel want to destroy hamas[terrorist group, neither a nation nor an ethnic group])

        I just say “from the river to the sea” or “kill all jews”

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      • _sideffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So why are Arabs living in Israel if they want to commit a genocide?

        Seems Israel is really bad at it, lmao

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    • mhague@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ignore Hamas. Read the infamous report from the US that was used by Israel as evidence they weren’t committing genocide. The report cleared Israel, and so it was used as a defense.

      But actually read the report.

      According to the US / Israel, they’re holding up food, making it difficult to access, making it get stuck in transit, making it get lost, making zero effort to facilitate / distribute, making it dangerous for people to solve it themselves, etc.

      But they never triggered the video game-like definition of genocide. They didn’t use god-like powers to absolutely withhold food. They didn’t declare “I’m doing a genocide.” Technically some people could eat sometimes, and some pencil pusher can’t change definitions on the fly, therefore no genocide.

      That’s the good version of what Israel is doing, as per their allies / their own mouth. Not genocide according to some definition, just genocide as everyone else would understand it.

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      • _sideffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hamas steals food from their citizens. Israel should not be responsible for providing aid to an area they are at war with, yet they do.

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• lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Isn’t the ICC famous for focusing too much on Africa? Some call it the African Criminal Court. But sure, it is antisemitic that after all the trials in the global south, they go after Israel.

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• Mannimarco@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sure bud

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