I’m not understanding what you’re trying to say.
Are you saying the Democrats, after called trump’s use of fake electors a threat to democracy, should try that failed tactic?
And are you saying this for 2024? After the Dems lost the popular vote, every swing state, the Senate and Congress, Dems should try to install Kamala as the 2024 winner?
Or that they should do that in 2028, regardless of the outcome or only if Republicana don’t cede power or?
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m saying they should do the 3xact same thing trump did and will face no consequences for and see how the Republicans respond in turn.
Lauchs@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You want them to simultaneously seem like hypocritez AND idiots?
To what end? Funsies?
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They would be exposing the hypocrites. They already look look like fucking morons for losing to trump, again, do not much to salvage there. Tell me any American could not miss the message when democrats stop the confirmation, roll out their own fake electors, and confirm kamala herself. Hell, have biden make it an official act because why not? Any person to object to it could not be totally lost on them this is exactly what Trump attempted to do.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Exposing hypocrites never brings any real gain, only an opportunity to get upset.
Now please don’t get me wrong: getting upset might be worth it for many, many people. Getting upset is one of the highest valued things in our time.
Lauchs@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Lol, no.
The world doesn’t work like this.
Who would get fired up who wasn’t already on side? Independents or those on the fence would just note that the Democrats were pulling the same nonsense they just spent four years crying fascism about. Right wingers would just see confirmation that the rules don’t matter. On the Left, the adults among us would see this as a stupid, hypocritical temper tantrum with no possibility of success and a further erosion of democratic norms.
This would be super unhelpful.
WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The problem is that the democrats are playing the game called “democracy.” The Republicans stopped following the rules of the game because they don’t want to play it anymore. If the Democrats do what the Republicans do, then the game is no longer be played. You can’t really give up on democracy and then bring it back. It rarely ever works that way.
If you cede the ground of democratic norms, rules, and policies just to win, you ultimately lose because you no longer have a democracy. In many respects, getting the Democrats to start doing the same thing is precisely what the Republicans want. Because that means they can finish burying democracy, and they’re better positioned to win the game called “fascism.”
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The board is set. The dems can pretend democracy as usual but it will all be fruitless. Nowadays the time to peel back any remaining facade of the america we once knew and go toe to toe with the fascist take over. The long we wait the deeper they will burrow into the heart of this nations government and one morning you’ll just wake up living in a fascist regime.
WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You can’t beat fascism with fascism.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Yeah, but as this election showed, people cant be trusted. Theres no need to try and preserve our “democracy” because our democracy led to this. Instead, democrats just need to take over via any means neccassary.
WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Sounds like a brilliant plan. “They’re being fascist so we have to be fascist!” has worked so well in history.