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kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

Leftist memes did not lose dems the election. Voter apathy and the sheer popularity of fascism did.

I’m not necessarily attributing blame here, but I’m pretty sure that OP is suggesting that leftist memes helped lead to this apathy. Say what you will, Trump voters were excited for their candidate… somehow, despite the list of reasons not to being far too long to be listed here. But many on the left either were just lukewarm on her, just considered her the lesser of two evils, or were protest voting third party or abstaining for one reason or another, mostly over Palestine. And there were memes galore to make clear to everyone what the general mood was. It doesn’t exactly inspire enthusiasm to those that need that a lot of enthusiasm to even bother (those people are frustrating, btw). I don’t know how much it actually contributed to or propogated the apathy versus how much it just reflected the apathy already there, but a case could be made either way.

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Bertuccio@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
They didn’t lead to the apathy - they pointed out the existing apathy would cost Dems the election.

You’re exactly right about people being excited for Trump and lukewarm on Harris, but that’s entirely on the Democrats for picking the platform and strategy that lost to Trump in 2016.

Harris had a notable and surprising lead when they announced Biden was out - then they changed nothing else. People didn’t just not like the candidate, they didn’t like the policies. They only changed the candidate and thought Trump was a big enough cudgel to bully people into voting even though that demonstrably doesn’t work.

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- Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  
  thought Trump was a big enough cudgel to bully people into voting even though that demonstrably doesn’t work.
  
  What kinda ass country is this?
  
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  - SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Oh boy, if you haven’t, read its history. Its real history. Wild stuff.
    
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Sooperstition@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Kamala isn’t on the left. The democrats aren’t on the left. This is a false dichotomy. They’re all capitalists. You can’t be on the left and be a capitalist, so leftists had many more disagreements with Kamala than Palestine.

Now, if you want to look at a great analysis of fascism and the false dichotomy in American politics, read Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti.

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Dragonstaff@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
It is on the candidate to inspire people. Yeah, the left was lukewarm to a candidate that was trying her best to court Republicans. How else could you expect that to play out?

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