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If baboons and macaques are monkeys, and if howlermonkeys and spidermonkeys are monkeys, humans MUST be monkeys.

Because they can ONLY both be monkeys if their common ancestor was also a monkey and we share that very same common ancestor. In fact we are closer related to macaques and baboons than to spidermonkeys.

Humans are apes, apes are a subgroup of monkeys, monkeys are a subgroub of primates.

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GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Monkeys are a social construct. Like trees.

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- lemonmelon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  If trees aren’t real, how can our birds be real?
  
  …I am so sorry
  
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- Enkrod@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Simiformes is a clear and distinct clade.
  
  There is no such thing for trees, because “tree” is a botanical classification, not a cladistical one.
  
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  - GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Simiiformes is a clear and distinct clade.
    
    Yes but who says that specific clade maps to the colloquial taxonomic word “monkey”?
    
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Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Monkeys are specifically non-ape simians.

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