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Comment on If Trump wins the election thru fraud how can the democrats refute it and prove they won? Or will it just be like another Jan 6 and four years of whining like Trump?

troyunrau@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

The premise here is that Trump loses but refuses to back down, attempting to forcibly claim victory. If Trump legitimately wins, there is a different path. Then…

Assuming multiple systematic failures occur simultaneously, including any of: actual voter fraud, fraudulent electors, congress refusing to certify, a captured supreme court acting in favour of Trump, or actual insurrection on or before Jan 6th.

I actually expect the US Military to step in. Every member is sworn to uphold the constitution. But if the constitution has been discarded, then I’d expect them to step in to restore it.

Failing that, the US likely fractures and we leave the Republic phase.

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vzq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

I actually expect the US Military to step in. Every member is sworn to uphold the constitution. But if the constitution has been discarded, then I’d expect them to step in to restore it.

Have you met the Oathkeepers?

If shit goes down, assume anyone with a uniform is going to throw in with the authoritarian despot.

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- Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  See I wouldn’t be to sure. There’s plenty of left leaning people who would fight to help restore the US. In the armed forces and by in large they have higher positions. Not necessarily higher as in commander positions but just non grunt ones. At least from what I hear from the friends and family I have in the various branches of the armed forces.
  
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  - LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Enlisted lean solidly conservative while officers are more to the center.
    
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- shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  You are very confused regarding the rank and file vs. officers.
  
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  - vzq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Maybe so. But keep in mind that part of being a good officer is making sure you don’t issue orders your men are not going to follow.
    
    Do you feel lucky?
    
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