Why do something now when in 100 years you can apologize and people will still vote for your party?
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Kryptonidas@lemmy.wtf 3 weeks ago
Maybe in a 100 years a future president will say sorry for supplying Israel with the weapons to destroy Gaza. Because doing something when it matters most….
timewarp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
over_clox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can someone break it down like an ELI5?
I don’t really even get who the good guys or bad guys are. Like, Israel, Iran, Palestine, Gaza, Hamas…
Sounds like a 5+ way war to me, I just don’t get it. And WTF does the USA have to do with any of it?
Can’t people just live in peace?
Death_Equity@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Brief summary?
The Germans killed Jews. Jews, having been persecuted since forever, wanted a homeland to be safe. They wanted their old homeland that was occupied by Palestinians since before electricity, the Brits didn’t see a problem and helped establish Israel in the lands that the Jews claimed God gave them and the deed is in the sacred scrolls.
The Palestinians didn’t appreciate that.
Both sides push back against one another, the Jews had everybody who wasn’t Muslim backing them and that means all of the military support from the leading name in military tech, America. Israel treats Palestinians like freed slaves in late 1800s America, they all don’t belong and are probably up to something. Good old segregation and restricting of movements.
The Palestinians form “militaries” to fight back against Jewish colonizers. They have different names at times but the big one now is Hamas. They are constantly in these build-ups and attacks, which then Israel beats the everliving shit out of Hamas. Hamas, not being a formal military, exists within the Palestinian population. This means Palestine gets wrecked when Hamas does anything because Hamas=Palestine.
Everytime Palestine gets all assertive about keeping their lands, Israel stomps them and takes more land.
Lebanon and Iran supports Palestine existing and their fight against being slaughtered. Palestinians flee to neighboring Lebanon when Israel is off bombing everything again because it is safer than dodging tanks and bombs. Hamas also flees to Lebanon because their whole thing is not wanting to die so that they can fight later.
Clearly Lebanon is also Hamas, so they catch Jewish hands throwing brass knuckles they got from 'Murica because America doesn’t have any major wars going on and we just get off on violence and our Military Industrial Complex gets so fucking feral when they don’t have something to hate-fuck for profit and fun for any length of time greater than a few years.
Iran sticks up for their friends, you guessed it, they catch hands too.
So why can’t we have peace? People don’t like it when you kill people and the only moral genocide is their genocide, it says so right here in the scrolls and it is funded by American Taxes.
over_clox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thank you for the simplified complex breakdown.
Although I’m a USA citizen, I’ve never been in support of any wars.
GrymEdm@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There’s a LOT involved in those questions, but I’ll try to keep it brief. I’ll give a few sources, but if I start linking extensively this post is going to run very long. Just know there’s a much more info that can be easily found from sources like the UN and humanitarian agencies like Amnesty International.
over_clox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Interesting. Very disappointing, but interesting to learn nonetheless.
Gunpowder wasn’t invented until the 10th century, and the letter J wasn’t invented until the 16th century.
I’m pretty sure that even if that Jesus fella did actually exist, it wasn’t spelled with a J. Either way, I’m also pretty sure that Jesus wasn’t a gun supporter, as they didn’t even exist back then.
Sigh, no wonder I’m not a religious person, religion seems to drive people crazy, expecting a 2000+ year old dead man to rise from the dead around Halloween and all…