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AProfessional@lemmy.world 9 months agoBoth of them are just ad tie-ins for other products. Barbie is hardly “cultural introspection”…
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
AnonTwo@kbin.social 9 months ago
...it's a Barbie movie
Like...one of the dominating toy brands of the 90s...the fact it has "personal development and cultural introspection" is something most people aren't going to know except word or mouth or seeing it themselves.
Both movies were tie-ins. But yes, the Barbie movie had more substance to it on closer inspection.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
“something most people aren’t going to know except word or mouth or seeimg it themselves” - or by watching thirty seconds of the trailer.
Correct, both movies are tie-ins(which nobody has argued against), but not “just” tie-ins, which is the incorrect assertion addressed.
And then you agree that the Barbie movie does have more substance.
Long way to haul your agreement on every discussed point.
AnonTwo@kbin.social 9 months ago
I am i just realizing that the original OP had an extra line that I'm not actually arguing, so i'll just say fair enough.
AProfessional@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Evidence for what, that Barbie is a brand of products? shop.mattel.com/collections/barbie
Or that it is very shallow? I like this take: youtu.be/RToUZJ0l7Pk?si=L_5KpIFNGR_BxS8W
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
No, not evidence for questions that nobody asked you, evidence for your assertion about the movies Barbie(2023)and Super Mario Bros.(2023):
“Both of them are just ad tie-ins for other products. Barbie is hardly “cultural introspection”.
Do you have evidence that both of these movies are only ad tie-ins for their toy products and that Barbie does not imply or introduce cultural introspection?
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girl@lemm.ee 9 months ago
tell me you didn’t watch the movie without telling me you didn’t watch the movie
AProfessional@lemmy.world 9 months ago
girl@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’ve watched the video. It’s a great critique of the corporate feminism in the movie. But it fails to back up your claim that Barbie has no cultural introspection.
The movie certainly does a garbage job of addressing the body image issues perpetuated by the brand. And it gives the company way too much cutesy-funness in an attempt to tame down the corporate hate it would receive. But not every feminist movie can cover every feminist topic. If every movie had to be a perfect representation of every feminist issue, we would have 0 feminist movies.
IMO, the biggest theme of the movie is how the patriarchy negatively impacts both men and women. That is feminist, and is strongly culturally introspective. We have very few movies that discuss toxic masculinity and its impact on our culture, Barbie is a good start.
girl@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Then you weren’t paying attention. The movie has plenty of cultural introspection, particularly how the patriarchy impacts both men and women. Yes it was definitely a giant toy ad, but it wasn’t just that.