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• ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  We’re talking about a creep staring at women and a creep posting photos to reddit, not a doctor treating a patient or a scientist studying people. We’re not talking about someone filling In a form oor using an abbreviation. We’re not talking about technical writing. You can’t just remove context and pretend like the situations are the same. Any language loses meaning without context. Your argument is meaningless because you ignored context. That context is incels using the word female to objectify and dehumanize women and as a dog whistle to call other misogynist pedants to their defense.

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  • WhoRoger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Stop projecting your insecurities.

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      • Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Damn this reads like a schoolyard fight

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      • WhoRoger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I have a feeling all of your sorts are just reading of a script. Some C-grade armchair psychologist has made some half-assed observation 20 years ago and now the likes of you have nothing else to argue with when someone calls out your insecurities.

        Anyway, you’re no fun, bye

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  • RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The post they are responding to claims that female is “never” used as a noun. The claim was not restricted to the posted context.

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• SpaceCadet@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Besides, have you never seen internet posts like in AITA or such using F/M?

  I think in those cases they refer to the adjective female and not the noun.

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  • WhoRoger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I still don’t see how one is offensive and one isn’t, when they describe the exact same thing.

    It’s as if programmers (noun) were offended when someome says they program (verb) or vice versa.

    Yea I see how you may not want to be reduced to just a word describing some quality of yours, but come on, going to war over it is really stupid.

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    • SpaceCadet@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I still don’t see how one is offensive and one isn’t, when they describe the exact same thing.

      Female as a noun sounds more formal, distant and depersonalizing than woman. Language is all about nuance.

      going to war over it is really stupid.

      I agree with you there. In most cases, and without additional context, I think it’s best to assume ignorance rather than malice.

      On the other hand, it’s also fair to say that this “going to war” only started a few years ago when incels deliberately and maliciously began using the term female to speak about women in a dehumanizing way.

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      • WhoRoger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Female as a noun sounds more formal, distant and depersonalizing than woman. Language is all about nuance.

        Well, we’re talking about some random anonymous person on the internet. I think not being personal is quite valid, especially since nowadays you never know how they identify.

        In fact, I do find it odd how first people were being offended by others assuming their identity, so some circles just began to use more general and broad terms, and now that’s offensive too.

        I tend to refer to singular people on the internet as “person”, and I have been corrected by them or.others, i.e. “I’m a woman!” Like, geez, I don’t care or need to know, to me you’re just a bunch of words, you may be a chatbot for what I know.

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