By default the open source/decentralized social media movement was galvanized by idealistic and political groups who were unsatisfied with corporate social media — mainly being the libertarian-flavored, pro-free speech free software types that flourished in the early software industry, the right wing activists that proliferated in the mid 00s/early 2010s, and left-wing factions of many types fighting capitalism.
Lemmy in particular was started by developers in the communist space, and has since attracted other segments of the left and center to seed its culture.
Many segments of popular communities here are liberal or even centrist now, but the background, core user base of Lemmy retains at least a socially progressive, anti-or-critical-capitalist lens, if not further left.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It’s probably state and political organizations trying to influence the election by implicitly trashing the democrats, there are farms of memers from conservative countries and organizations trying to imply that the democrats are the authoritarian party to rattle the cages of voters.
it happened in 2016 and 2020, and every American intelligence agency has been publicly cautioning voters for years that electoral manipulation through indirect methods like memes and social media posts are definitely being perpetrated by unfriendly countries and is only increasing.
wired.com/…/russia-ira-propaganda-senate-report/
It’s a pretty interesting story that not many people talk about, but a lot of political memes on the internet are supplied by foreign state actors willfully trying to influence American elections, and in the case of 2016, successfully affected the outcome of the American election for the conservatives according to intelligence agencies.
sh_it_poster24@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
This is not trashing democrats, and republicans would be worse. This is trashing all the ignorant peopel who don’t understand the difference.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
“all the ignorant peopel”
so glad you’re on the job.
hellothere@leminal.space 2 months ago
McCarthidiots
STOP_YANK_SPAM@leminal.space 2 months ago
Americans are so displeasant lmao why are you guys like that?
HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Don’t see the lunk between this meme and the US election. I bet this is a widely shared understanding of the situation outside the US.
killea@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m gonna agree with varik here. I’ve noticed a deliberate contingent of “pro-Palestinian” who are clearly siphoning votes from Harris. They seem to be targeting naive leftists and Midwest Muslims, and they always intentionally obfuscate just how much more brutal and awful Trump would be.
sh_it_poster24@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Trump woudl be worse.
hellothere@leminal.space 2 months ago
Trump is your responsibility as an american, idiot. The same way sending bomb to israel is your responsibility as an american. So fuck you, you have blood on your hand. Look at yourself in the mirror real good.
STOP_YANK_SPAM@leminal.space 2 months ago
The quote around “pro-palestinians” makes me hate americans even more lmao. People are getting bombed and starved and they are so heartless they take an antiwar movement as a foreign psy-op.
I bet vietnam war opponents were moscow operatives, were they? The COINTELPRO narrative.
awwwyissss@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Bingo.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
link:
in 2016 and 2020, meme farms were established in Russia, China and Iran specifically to covertently attack the democratic party so that The conservatives in the US would seem more rational, because for an actors with intense to harm the US want the conservatives to gain power again.
that is happening again.
Even if OP here isn’t one of the Russian meme farmers themselves, their misunderstanding of the political conflict is undoubtedly influenced by the intentionally divisive and simplified memes flooded into American social media by bad actors.
It’s a dead-end, lazy barely-a-thought meme and the fashionably cynical futility of American policy analysis should be confronted.
hellothere@leminal.space 2 months ago
Fuck off idiot. You guys are spamming the whole internet with your elections memes even though the rest of the world sees you are just throwing the rest of the world under the bus every four years.
“intentionally divisive and simplified memes flooded into American social media by bad actors”
Are you the paid propagandist? No way somebody normal speaks like that.
Oh and I hope you guys pays after sending two-tons bombs that they’re dropping on hospitals. I hope whoever’s in charge gets jailed.
Execute trump. Jail Bidden
HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I do not deny the very rearl, intense and dangerous activity of Russian and Chinese troll farms for Western democracies. But you cannot reduce the meme as an attack on Democrat’s policy: all US administrations after Clinton have had a one-sided approach of the conflict in Israel/Palestine. It is more visible now the IDF slaughters tens of thousands of civilians with US-supllied missiles, while keeping their own population protected under the US-supplied iron dome. One can only hope Trump loses and Harris manages to curb Netanyahu’s extremism.
hellothere@leminal.space 2 months ago
Jeez I’m just some rando reminding yanks they are genociders for free. How stupid is this? I’m just appaled by war crimes and you guys threat to invade the haag.
But now I’m learning I could get paid to insult yanks? Sounds like a great job. Would you have the address of a recruiter or something? I need a side-hussle.
The McCarthidiots are really out there saying all criticism of america’s action must come from some siberian call centers lmao
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
geez, you actually are one of the farmers aren’t you?
npr.org/…/how-a-russian-troll-factory-waged-an-ag…
nice to meet you, glad you failed last election cycle. excited to see you fail and waste all that money again this election cycle.
hellothere@leminal.space 2 months ago
Yes I’m currenlty in vladivostok. We’re eating caviar and cocain using kalashnikov as forks.
Idiot McCarthist lmao
Nah seriously, I’m just a random dude. I wish I was paid to do this, it sounds like a nice gig.
NOMOREYANKSPAM@leminal.space 2 months ago
BROOO BORIS JUST SHOVED AN ENTIRE BOTTLE OF VODKA UPON VLADIMIR’S BUTTHOLE YOU SHOULD COME WORK WITH US DROG WE HAVE SO MUCH FUN.
Seriously how retarded can you be ahah
hellothere@leminal.space 2 months ago
time.com/…/biden-lawsuit-israel-palestinian-genoc…
Calling out the US for their support of genocide is the logical thing to do with anybody with a heart. You guys are spamming the whole internet with your election bullcrap, don’t whine when foreigners gives their opinion on this, fuckhead. You guys are a rogue country and I hope new york gets bombed someday. Fuck you.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
you’re not “calling them out”, you’re upvoting a lazy, misguided meme without any context purely to get attention.
“You guys are spamming the whole internet with your election bullcrap”
proof?
Just kidding, I know you don’t have any.
I have zero political memes in my entire history.
“You guys are a rogue country and I hope new york gets bombed someday.”
your horrible, cruel nature right here is the proof of your insincerity and misunderstanding of how war works.
hellothere@leminal.space 2 months ago
en.wikipedia.org/…/United_States_complicity_in_Is…
Shut the fuck up you warcrimer cunt. I hope your wife gets blown off.
ReeSilva@bolha.forum 2 months ago
Bro, u don’t need foreign authors to do that. The very same person that did and does that there, teach Bolsonaro and his MFs to do the same in Brazil. USA problem is not foreign authors, but inside job, even when them (Trump and his followers, backed by Steve Bannon and tons of money from people like Musk) hire external actors to do so.
One of the biggest problems of USA lies in the fact that united stadians (sorry, I refuse to call them Americans and prefer to create a name) always think that their country is being attacked, harassed and assaulted by evil external actors that wants the end of USA when these actors are, mainly, internal. And most of the externals, also hired by internal actors.
But, I admit that it is being nice to see the end of USA as an empire (even though they will die shooting and killing millions, like we are seeing in Ukraine, Gaza, Lebanon, Siria, Libia and many others)