Comment on Steam Now Warns Consumers That They're Buying a License, Not a Game During a Purchase

zoostation@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• Deestan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  True, with some modifications:

  Some games had online activation built in. Some games would simply not install on a second or third machine without getting permission from the publisher.

  Regular CDs have a lifespan of 5-10 years, shorter if not stored ideally. Almost all games had sophisticated mechanisms to prevent backups being taken.

  Even if you could take a backup, record associations and publishers lobbied to make it illegal and punishable by severe fines in many countries.

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  • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Sony shipped fucking root kits on their CD that would hijack your PC and screw with backup software.

    Worse, this thing from Sony was on music CD’s and not even games.

    The Sony Rootkit debacle is one of the reasons that I still will not do business with Sony in any of its guises, for any reason, no matter the price. And believe me, I have a long memory.

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  • _bcron_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Some games would simply not install on a second or third machine without getting permission from the publisher.

    I remember binning DDR2 RAM on a test bench back in the day and Windows deactivated itself after about a dozen times lol

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  • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I’ve got CDs I’ve had for 25+ years and they’re still fine

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    • Deestan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yeah good ones last 200 years if stored correctly. Cheap ones are 5-10. 20 can be expected for quality CDs stored correctly.

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      • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Don’t conflate a mastered CD with an aluminum data layer with a recordable CD-R or CD-RW, which use organic dyes that have a significantly shorter lifespan.

        A properly manufactured CD can last 200+ years if it’s stored in a dry environment free of UV exposure and high levels of moisture.

        Even a quality CD-R can’t really be expected to retain all of its data integrity for much more than 10 years.

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• cttttt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Before Steam (esp. right before Steam) it was common for a disc to have nothing but a 100mb installer that attempted to download the game, or an actual game build so buggy that you were forced to download patches that required you to be online.

  Prior to this, games came with serial numbers and needed to be activated online. This made reselling PC games no longer a thing as you needed to trust who you were buying the game from.

  In both cases, the physical disc was yours, but it was pretty useless. It wasn’t the game, but also was required to play the game.

  Before that, we had truly resellable DRM: “Enter the 3rd word on the 20th page of the manual 🤣”.

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  • zoostation@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    No, dialup was still common in the early days of Steam, game content was not largely being delivered as downloads yet and discs were still useful because it could not yet be taken for grated that a customer would be always online.

    But I’d still rather download a game straight from the developer or publisher without an additional middleman. Privacy aside, the cost of that rent seeking from Steam gets passed along to you.

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    • cttttt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I vaguely remember having on the order of 5mbps “broadband” when Steam worn me down enough for me to give it a shot over the alternatives 🙄. It was pretty bad at first, but it worked. But maybe broadband adoption was more of a thing in Canada back then.

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• Voyajer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  The modern equivalent would be to make cold backups of your steam stuff.

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