Imagine if our Governor General and Prime Minister were murdered and a religiously motivated gang took over.
Lebanon deserves a democratically elected government, not a corrupt gang.
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StudChud@aussie.zone â¨2⊠â¨months⊠agoI dislike you have been down voted. We are allowed to protest here, and as long as youâre not a Nazi, I have no issue with it.
I also donât understand what protesting in Melbourne is going to do for the Palestinians. Aus isnât the big manufacturer of weapons being sent to Israel or Palestine. Iâm not saying you should t go, I just donât get what it is trying to achieve here.
I get protesting in Britain, since they sort of set this up historically, but also wars and conflict over the holy land have been ongoing since, like, before Jesus. So. What does Australia have to do with this?
I do think there are way more relevant issues to protest - such as the rise of Nazis, cost of living, price gouging, and housing affordability, and the rights of First Nations.
I do not agree with either side, I dont want innocent people to be used as collateral damage.
But again, what will protesting the war do here, in Australia, in Melbourne?
Not trying to start a fight, I just donât understand the goals.
Seagoon_@aussie.zone â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
Aradina@lemmy.ml â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
The Palestinian struggle mirrors the struggle against colonialism in our country. Thatâs why the protests always include chants of âalways was always will beâ. Colonialism is a worldwide system after all, its not just in Palestine or Australia. Itâs the same struggle everywhere, and we need to fight it everywhere if we want it gone to the dustbin of history where it belongs alongside all other forms of racism.
Our government also does have the ability to pressure other governments. We have the ability to change things and improve things despite being a middle power. Even just condemning the genocide would be a massive move that could change things, it could encourage other countries to condemn it and stop exporting products that help it along.
Those other issues are issues and we should be rallying about those too. Someone just has to organise and lead it. On the Nazis, these rallies are anti-nazi too. The groups involved are broad leftist groups who are very much against Nazism and everything it stands for, like colonialism.
On top of that is just solidarity. If even one photo of the rally makes it to someone having a hard time in Palestine or Lebanon or wherever else and maybe improves their day, then every rally will have been worth it. I want it to be known that despite being on the other side of the world, I care.
âAn injury to one is an injury to all.â Is something I take very seriously. As long as there are oppressed people out there, none of us are free.
Also the benefit of my account being on Lemmy.ml is that down votes donât federate between instances so idk how many people downvote me, I only see one or two.
StudChud@aussie.zone â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
Makes sense to me, thank you for explaining! đđź
May we see an end to all settler colonialism and move forward to a peaceful existence with each other.
Aradina@lemmy.ml â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
It might not be in our lifetimes, but one day good will win out. Itâll be great.
Alamutjones@aussie.zone â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
That may have been the goal originally, but Iâve definitely seen more swastikas than I would likeâŚ
Thereâs some bad actors who have latched on, maybe
Aradina@lemmy.ml â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
Nazis arenât really going to rallies where the chants include âalways was, always will be!â âAboriginal landâ or âno justice, no peace, no racist policeâ because they support the cause. But they might rock up to agitate and divert media attention away from them.
Any amount of swasticas are too many though. I got a cheapo kogan thermal printer so I can cover them on the fly with pictures of my cat. Havenât actually had to use it for that yet though.
Alamutjones@aussie.zone â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
Iâve seen them. Remember I live in the CBD, so I see basically any protest that occurs.
Itâs not many, but since (like you) my preferred number of Nazis would be zeroâŚ
Seagoon_@aussie.zone â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
I agree, we should protest Shia imperialism/colonialism. Shia Hezbollah has slaughtered 10,000s of Sunni democracy protestors in Syria. Shia Hezbollah persecuted and slaughtered Lebanese Christians. Shia has slaughtered and denied rights to women in Iran. Shia Hamas kills Druze and Bedouins and Christians in Israel. Shia wants to have a caliphate and destroying Israel and all infidels, including all Sunni, is part of that.
StudChud@aussie.zone â¨2⊠â¨months⊠ago
Yes. Extremists are bad on both sides�