Now, tell me, if I’m an outsider with no horse in this race, and no way of objectively measuring the reality by living in the country of question, what should I think?
Living in the country of question is not necessary for an objective evaluation.
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where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 4 days agoIt’s very interesting that you think his supporters are sheep, and all people around you upvote you at a 100% rate. (you received 0 downvotes after calling at least 40% of your countrymen sheep).
Coincidentally, his supporters on their social media post how Kamala voters want the end of the country. With a 100% upvote ratio.
Now, tell me, if I’m an outsider with no horse in this race, and no way of objectively measuring the reality by living in the country of question, what should I think?
While you gather an answer to that question, I’ll be of an opinion that 100% of Americans are complete morons and sheep because they’re unable of having any reasonable democratic process or a political discourse for two years every four years (cuz it’s “election” time).
aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I see your getting down votes. This crowd doesn’t like to be called out. Americans are sheep. We buy what we are told to buy; we eat what we are told to eat; we believe what we are told to believe but this isn’t unique to America. We definitely do need to do better in our politics. It’s evident every day when there is an unnaturally orange man on the TV and there isn’t a line of Karen’s sitting in front of every courthouse asking to speak to a manager.
Anyway…
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
“Sure, you all call Heaven’s Gate a cult, but everyone in Heaven’s Gate says they’re not a cult. How am I, an outside observer, supposed to know who is right? Clearly everyone but me must be morons.”
where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
“Everyone says those 100 people are a cult” is different from “Half of the population of a country call the other half a cult and vise-versa”.
You might feel like it’s “everyone”, because you never hear anything the other side has to say. But I’m reminding you, from a statistical perspective, the weight is really about 50/50. A 60/40 split in your favor is currently outside of a 3-sigma confidence interval.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
It’s really not. Republicans have less support from less than 40% of the population, MAGAts are less than 20%. The Electoral College, Gerrymandering, and voter disenfranchisement are the only reason the election is around 50/50.
If the US election was done by a straight popular vote there would have only been a single Republican president since 1990, and it would have been 20 years ago.
where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
You love misinterpreting facts into your favor, don’t you?
www.nytimes.com/…/polls-president.html
aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Au contraire mon frere. I would posit that nobody that gives even a single iota of a shit about politics in this country hasn’t been exposed to what “the other side has to say”. I’d also venture to guess that the number of people who don’t give a single iota of shit about politics in this country have also heard what “the other side has to say” is very distant on the number line from zero. There have even been studies (since you occasionally pretend to give a fuck about objectivity) confirming that Republicans who watch Fox News know less about Democrats than Democrats know about Republicans.
It’s kind of difficult to not “hear what the other side has to say” when half of your news media spends its time interviewing people on both sides of divisive issues such as “the vaccine question” or “is the earth round”, and the other half of your news media openly roots for Republican candidates.
where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Dunno, gimme a name of your reputable news sources. I’ma take a look.
Cuz the video in question is as biased as fox news. Just into the opposite direction.
It’s hard for me, personally, to watch it, even though I do believe it’s insane to vote for Trump. And yet the video is just repeatable cringe. It ads nothing to the political debate, and given that this particular show does pretty much the same material every week I’m not sure how isn’t everyone yet bored of watching it?