Comment on The Antiquity to Alt-Right Pipeline

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What if you live in Europe, though? I like our classical architecture, and I saw a post advocating for different countries to go back to their historical architecture instead of big plain concrete and glass boxes

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is no such thing as “our classical architecture”. Europe is a large and varied continent. Architecture comes from all over the world including the middle east, africa, and beyond. These phony constructs like “classical european architecture” are just white supremacy with another name.

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      United Kingdom

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    • DdCno1@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I hope you are merely trolling.

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    • GiveMemes@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Are you suggesting that architectural styles are not based on interactions with different peoples and that the type of architecture, for example, from 200-500CE is not going to vary greatly in different regions such as East Asia and Europe? And that those peoples with individual cultures and ideas about architecture won’t ever interact with their neighbors, creating cross-cultural styles? That these cultures will never interact and reach a quorum on specific styles of buildings, especially when brought together through larger institutions such as religion?

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  • sculd@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Classical architecture is an extremely broad term.

    Are you talking about Greece or Roman architecture? Gothic? Byzantine? Renaissance? Baroque?

    Even when you talk about “European” there are a variety of styles among different countries.

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Victorian 😎

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• lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  At least when it comes to languages, the eurocentrism and subjectivity are being addressed for at least a century. Sapir for example proposed that the “classical languages” weren’t just two but five - Arabic, Chinese, Greek, Latin, Sanskrit. And the definition became roughly “varieties with a heavy and outlasting impact outside their native communities”. (Personally I’d also add Sumerian, Quechua and Nahuatl to that list. But that’s just me.)

  Additionally plenty linguists see the idea of “classic” not as specific languages, but as a potential stage of a language, assigned retroactively to the period when its prestige and cultural production were specially strong. For example, Classical Ge’ez is defined as the one from centuries XIII~XIV.

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