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There’s only one way you can support Trump today.

You either refuse to acknowledge all the terrible things he’s done, or you approve of the things he’s done.

People who refuse to acknowledge, are going to look at all the “fake news” on this site about His Oranginess, and quickly decide that it’s nothing but propaganda and go somewhere “more reliable”.

Those who agree, stock around a little longer. They will argue and defend the horrible things, because they think there are more like them that will come out and back them up as a fellow defender of --racism-- --misogyny-- --homophobia-- “Good old family values”. But they will be downvoted to oblivion and have trouble finding a friendly voice. Eventually, they too will go where they can have a more comfortable discussion with people who are as terrible as they are.

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Orbituary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

You either refuse to acknowledge all the terrible things he’s done, or you approve of the things he’s done.

This is two ways.

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- Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  No! I have been defeated!! I now have no choice but to vote Republican! Damn you, Orbituary! <Fist waves dramatically>
  
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  - Orbituary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    How did you get that from my comment?
    
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    Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s all good. Just having fun.
    
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- Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The brackets were implied by OP.
  
  I.e. “one way: (be ignorant || approve)”.
  
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- jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Our three weapons are…
  
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andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
We had an opportunity years ago to fix this problem. Long before Trump ever showed up on the scenes as a political individual. We needed in schools to be teaching how to pick out real news from fake news. How to pick out fact from propaganda. Hell out to read a newspaper properly.

How to logically pick a part in argument. We chose not to. We as a society, decided not to put our money towards that. No people read a headline, and based purely on the headline, make a statement such as “throw the guy in jail for the rest of his life for that one “.

I sat on a jury trial. It was a murder trial, if you went purely by what was in the local newspaper, you would’ve seriously questioned why the guy didn’t just take a plea deal. If you sat in that courtroom day after day, listening to it you’d realize this is a lot tougher than what you realize. we had a time figuring out if the guy was even in town at the time of the murder.

But for those that weren’t involved in the trial, they’re convinced the guy belonged in jail for the rest of his life. Because people didn’t sit down and really read the newspaper and ask important questions. Because we don’t hold our journalists to a higher standard and force them to give all the information And tell both sides of the story.

I have no idea how you solve the problem anymore. Because at this point, even if you tell the complete truth about any given politician, no one‘s going to believe what they’re reading anymore because there’s another so-called journalist out there saying the exact option and people say well I don’t know what to believe then. And can’t figure out how to critically think about this and ask questions.

Here in Lemmy we are guilty of the same sort of thing, same as over at truth social same as over at Twitter same as over Facebook.

As a society, I’m sorry for the language here, we are well and truly fucked.

I truly don’t know what the answer is.

Also sidenote 10 bucks says somebody comes back with a stupid comment of well since you don’t know what the answer is obviously you’re just saying that we shouldn’t do anything and just give up.

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- Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  If you’ve never watched the move 12 Angry Men, do yourself a favor and watch it. You are going to love it and it has everything to do with your comment.
  
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  - andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Thanks for the recommendation
    
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- jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Neglecting public education is really going to keep biting us in the ass.
  
  Something like half of US adults can’t read at a sixth grade level.
  
  If we took some of the idiotic venture capitalist “it’s cat gifs on the block chain” nonsense and put it into education and infrastructure, we’d be so much better off.
  
  I don’t really know how to get from here to there, either. Give me magic powers to Thanos snap away some people, maybe?
  
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- Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  I have no idea how you solve the problem anymore. Because at this point, even if you tell the complete truth about any given politician, no one‘s going to believe what they’re reading anymore because there’s another so-called journalist out there saying the exact opposite and people say well I don’t know what to believe then. And can’t figure out how to critically think about this and ask questions.
  
  Reverse cargo cult.
  
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- barooboodoo@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  We needed in schools to be teaching how to pick out real news from fake news.
  
  Obviously there are issues with education in this country but it’s always an easy scapegoat for these kinds of issues. Plenty of states have skills like this in their common core, I would venture to say you’re incorrect on that point.
  
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  - andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Fair enough I graduated in the early 90s at that time we didn’t have it. At least not at the level that I felt that we should’ve. If I’m wrong on that, then I apologize.
    
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    barooboodoo@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    No worries, you just hear a lot of misguided criticisms of the education system a lot of which are based on anecdotal experiences. I wish everyone would keep tabs on what kids are learning and have a more hands on approach to curricula.
    
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andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Not sure who down voted you. Or even why

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