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Comment on Why is Kamala Harris being held at such a higher standard than Trump this election?

daniyeg@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

honestly aside from explicitly right wing outlets, I don’t see any particular bias against harris. most outlets will almost alway criticize trump on everything while most of the time they praise harris and sometimes they criticise her on her more progression policies (because most of the media tilts fiscal conservative). it’s rather more of a perceptions of the audience thing. trump has done so many outlandish shit that now most of his bullshit gets filtered out as noise.

also i don’t wanna be mean but the question “Why does it feel standards are much higher for Harris than Trump?” sounds like it’s coming from an agitated"vote blue no matter who" democrat who is baffled about why would people not vote for the obviously better candidate.

there are a lot of reasons as you said “this race is STILL either 50/50 or tilt Trump”. maybe it’s because she’s black or female and there are a lot of sexist and misogynists out there, maybe it’s because of the electoral college, maybe it’s because of the hold the MAGA cult has over its members, or maybe it’s because harris is refusing to stop arming and helping a genocide and that is turning people off.

the Harris campaign right now can only change one of these factors. even if you plan on voting, lie on the polls and organise and protest against the genocide because if enough people do this to force the hand of the Harris campaign then it wouldn’t be a close race at all.

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BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I disagree on the genocide. I’d love for Biden to stop cucking to Israel, but I don’t think that’s nearly a big enough issue to sway polling fully in Harris’ favor. I’ve yet to see a single focus group video or cross tab where Gaza was a major issue for these voters.

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- KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  I’ve yet to see a single focus group video or cross tab where Gaza was a major issue for these voters.
  
  and even if it is a major issue for them, the vast majority of them are going to concede that issue at any cost.
  
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KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

or maybe it’s because harris is refusing to stop arming and helping a genocide and that is turning people off.

in terms of this argument, i don’t understand why i never see I/P people talking about russia and ukraine. Russia has lost upwards of 300,000 people in the war effort alone, an entire magnitude more than Palestinian deaths. Most of these being random people conscripted out of nowhere.

Do we not care about the lives or russians or something? Is this covert racism? Are we just politically tuned into only I/P because modern progressives have only the brain space for one single conflict? (and i don’t blame them, i don’t have time for I/P either lmao)

They literally only talk about I/P and it’s so confusing to me, do they go outside or anything? It seems like thats the only thing they care about?

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- Soulg@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s a bit different because Russia are the ones who are invading another country. While obviously the insane loss of life is still terrible, I think people would view i/p a lot differently if it was Palestine actively invading and trying to annex all of Israel.
  
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  - KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    i don’t think that’s quite true though. The reason that the russo ukraine war is so bad is because russia thinks it just can do that. That’s the whole problem.
    
    With I/P it’s not that palestine is invading israel, it’s that israel is “indiscriminately bombing palestine and killing tens of thousands of people” i don’t really see how israel isn’t analogous to russia in this example. The only difference being that russia isn’t funded by the US, obviously.
    
    you have this completely backwards though. Israel IS trying to annex and overthrow entire sections of the strip. That’s WHY they have settlements.
    
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