AA always gave off bad vibes to me because of the whole “surrender to a higher power” shtick
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SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I had 2 interventions in my life and neither worked. In fact, they made it much worse for me.
I suggest that you go to AlAnon and learn a bit about alcoholism before trying anything (btw, AlAnon is not AA, but is a program to help non-alcoholics understand what they’re dealing with.)
Your friend is lucky to have you. Don’t give up on them. It truly is hellish.
rbesfe@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
mayo@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Lots of secular AA groups out there
scarabic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s hard to know which are really secular. Some folks think that calling it “a higher power” makes it secular. A fig leaf over the word “god” doesn’t do it for me.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Not in Texas seemingly lol
TheCrawlingKingSnake@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Lots of secular groups on zoom.
SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Same, but the community was great. Being around people that understand is so beneficial.
ZombieTheZombieCat@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Absolutely. There has to be some little glimmer of already wanting to quit for them to take the help seriously. I would absolutely recommend AlAnon as well. You can’t just force someone into treatment, and that’s pretty much what interventions try to do, on top of making the person feel guilt and shame which likely is why they drink in the first place. Being able to have a one on one, calm conversation about how the person is affecting themselves and others is probably a good route, because people often do not recognize they have a problem in the first place. It would not be surprising for it to end with the person getting angry and storming out, but it plants the seed in a more reasonable way than having everyone they know cornering them, humiliating them, and saying “go to rehab now or we never speak to you again.”
Source: in recovery, worked in the field.
SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
The guilt and shame is brutal, and shouldn’t be used to try to change someone into behaving better. It’s like spanking you kids, which is illegal now (at least whew I’m at).
Scientician@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Can 100% support Al-Anon. Great program.
scarabic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
+1 AlAnon is a good program. It shows how deeply ingrained alcohol is in our society that we have support programs just for people who know an alcoholic.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I’ve found with my own addictions that forcibly stopping one just causes a different one to start up.
The real solution for me has been healing trauma, resulting in baseline consciousness not being painful.
Kikkertje@aussie.zone 10 months ago
Most alcoholics use alcohol to run from difficult, unprocessed emotions. I was one of them.
Stanwich@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And weed helps…not advocating, just saying it helped.
esty@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
i smoke as much as the next guy but at this point it would be replacing one vice with another
Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world 10 months ago
But it’s replacing it with a much less destructive one, which can be beneficial
scarabic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Different people react to it differently and for some it’s very positive. It may depend what the underlying stressor is. People who have chronic pain often respond well to THC/CBD.
And it certainly has fewer ill effects than booze.
SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Many of the programs recommend therapy first. No one wants to drink themselves to death, even though it feels like that sometimes.