keep the character creators, but only let the player use a randomizer button and a silliness slider.
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masterspace@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Game should just get rid of character creators. Just play the damn game with whoever the main character is and learn to emphasize with someone other than yourself.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
SteevyT@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
I don’t know whether we would have ever gotten the absolute brilliance that is Turg if proper customization weren’t available.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
sea of thieves style
asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
I see the point of character creators, but games shouldn’t be afraid to do what’s best for them, for some games character creators are basically the only way that makes sense, but also yeah I’d like to see more games that didn’t have them at all
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 4 weeks ago
This reminds me of that “vessel creator” troll from Deltarune
HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
See, I don’t really care that the player is referred to as “They/Them” in Deltarune, because it’s established that you are playing as Kris and those are their pronouns.
(and in Undertale, the monsters simply had no idea what Frisk’s gender was due to an unfamiliarity with humans so it’s kept intentionally vague… with they/them simply being the most gender neutral thing to call them and the fanbase having their own headcanons on what Frisk actually is. Personally my head canon is Frisk is male and Chara is female, which seemed to be the most common interpretation in the fanbase back then)
Sidenote: First non-binary person I ever met used ey/eir pronouns, this was so long ago that ey called eirself “Genderless” instead of Non-Binary as the latter wasn’t a word. Ey was femme presenting, but very much not female. Sadly we’ve drifted apart and wherever ey is I wish eir well.
I always wished ey/eir had caught on instead of “singular they”, because personally I thought “ey” sounded cooler and was more straightforward than “singular they”. But hey I’m not non-binary myself so it’s not really any of my business.
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 4 weeks ago
I would like to thank you for taking your time to write this response. For some reason, I was feeling blue. Seeing the lenght of your comment made me feel heard and really happy. Thank you for sharing this with me, may you have a wonderful day/night!
theVerdantOne@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
But what about games that require you to distinguish yourself from other real-life players as in all massively multiplayer games?
HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I’m actually all for this as well, unless the game is some open-ended roleplaying experience just give me a character to play as and design the game around who this person is (I think the original Dead Rising did a good job of this with Frank West, the remake… well unless previews are from an earlier build than what we’re getting in September not so much)
And I mean a REAL open-ended roleplaying experience, not something like Fallout 4 that was blatantly designed for me to play as Nate, a lawful good heterosexual cisgender male military vet with predefined goals… with gay romance options and the ability to play as his wife Nora existing solely to give the illusion of choice… An Illusion I still appreciate because when I play I always wind up being Nora with Curie as my wifey.
(I feel like FO4 would be far less divisive if it was a spinoff about Nate’s journey rather than a sequel to a series that is known for player agency, and even then the Brotherhood of Steel suddenly being a bunch of Nazis is still stupid as hell)
UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 4 weeks ago
Then we’d be going back to having the vast majority of games having a cis male protagonist. No thanks. I don’t mind playing as them from time to time, but I want a choice, especially if the main character is one of those blank slate types.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
I’m not advocating for that either and I don’t necessarily they think they would these days. Ubisoft is steadfastly ignoring the dumbasses around the black male / Asian female leads for AC, no matter how loud they whine.
luciole@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn made me realize I vibe so well playing as a woman. If I had had the choice I probably would have picked the masculine option since that’s my gender. I’m glad that game forced my hand, now when I have a choice I give it a real thought.
UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 4 weeks ago
Yeah, hopefully the inclusiveness trend continues.
jarfil@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Games could have multiple protagonists with different bodies, genders, personalities, etc… something like Overwatch did have that, you could even play as a hamster or a robot!