Comment on Anon wants American companies to make a good RPG

Wilzax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  RDR isn’t an RPG, it’s an action-adventure game.

  I concur on the rest.

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  • Wilzax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think those genres are mutually exclusive. I haven’t played RDR1 but RDR2 is definitely an Action-Adventure RPG. You level up Arthur’s stats throughout the game and can choose different moral paths that affect the ending. That’s playing a role.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Likewise, I haven’t played RDR2 (started, but never got past the first 30 min or so), but RDR1 is pretty much just GTA in the wild west. You can buy stuff (like GTA), but I don’t recall any stats to speak of, it’s very much an action-adventure. Wikipedia claims RDR2 is an action-adventure, so I assume it’s closer to the Yakuza series in terms of character customization than RPGs, and Yakuza games are very much action-adventure (despite having some skills to level up).

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      • Wilzax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean, define ‘RPG’ because to me, any time you choose how your character evolves and grows as the game progresses through a story, that’s an RPG.

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      • Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Both RDRs do have stats though

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Isn’t RDR exactly as much of an RPG as Mass Effect. Neither gives you any real control over the main story, though I guess Mass Effect makes you think you do better. The sidequests are about as open, and neither do you get to choose your character.

    I don’t know if I do actually think RDR is an RPG, but that opinion is shared for Mass Effect, The Witcher, and so many others. They’ve taken they ability point systems from RPGs, but they’re still action adventure games with RPG mechanics.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I consider Mass Effect and The Witcher to be action RPGs, more similar to games like Ys and Diablo than games like Elder Scrolls or Final Fantasy. The focus of those games are less on your character development (stats and whatnot) and more on the action, but the character development does matter quite a bit.

      However, in RDR, your character development really doesn’t matter at all, at least in the first, and I’m guessing the second as well.

      So:

      • Mass Effect - ARPG
      • The Witcher - ARPG
      • RDR - action-adventure

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There’s more in 2 than 1 had. Most of it isn’t magic, like The Witcher or Mass Effect (though Dead Eye I’d say is magic), but there are a bunch of skills to learn, as well as weapons to purchase that give essentially Stat upgrades and unlocks to find. They’re more diegetic in RDR2 than the other games listed, but I’d say that’s better for an RPG, not worse.

        They are not ARPGs though. That’s Diablo type games. They’re Action Adventure games, with RPG elements. I don’t think they should be classified with the RPGs because they have very different goals, even though they use similar mechanics.

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