Probably the people—accurately—pointing out that Mozilla has also adopted Manifest V3 along with Google. Google is doing it to curtail (“kill”) ad blockers. Mozilla is also now in the advertising game, and secretly began a telemetry program which is opt-out only. And, given how we shouldn’t trust orgs with financial motive, very well could opt you back in with future updates exactly as Microsoft does.
Plus, their current CEO has a history, and Mozilla as a whole faces dicey times ahead if their Daddy Google is forced to stop buying exclusivity deals by the U.S. government.
I don’t care about advertisers. I will not put up with targeted advertising out of principle. This is a “feature” I’d expect out of Google not Mozilla although these days it isn’t a shock.
If anything, you are the one spreading BS. However, I think we are all entitled to our own opinions. Calling someone else’s opinion on a topic BS is arrogant at best and hurtful at worst. Ultimately there are no right answers
Don't make me laugh. You seriously think after buying an ad firm that "privacy preserving attribution" is not a euphemism? And I'm not the only one that sees it that way:
Why don't you stop being to blue-eyed? Mozilla isn't the privacy preserving browser. Hasn't for a long time. Its major reason for existence is to be a functional "alternative" to Chrome that isn't built on top of it.
Man I was gonna say. As soon as noticed it I told everyone to switch to at least Waterfox if they are getting new devices or need recommendations.
I’m personally gonna wait for the Mullvad Browser to get tested some more because that one is said to be much better when it comes to privacy than a lot of others.
I use Vivaldi rn because of the customization option and the privacy is aight but obv not more than can be expected from chromium based browsers.
Also another hint to take your hands off opera or even worse, opera gx if you have that. Not worth it. Data collectors, not very fast anymore and customization I would always recommend Vivaldi or at least another base chromium variant.
They aren’t killing Mv2 but they implemented there own ad system in Firefox that was silently turned on. That is on top of all the other anti privacy stuff like telemetry, Firefox suggest and Pocket.
They are only good for privacy when compared to Chrome. Compared to Librewolf and similar they are abysmal
All that is irrelevant to what I just said, and what you originally said, but for the record, I’m not mad about it. Firefox is implementing ads in a privacy-friendly way and, now that they’re basically the only browser engine in the world that isn’t Chromium and their Google money is drying up, they’re going to have to earn revenue somehow. No way in hell they’re going to live off donations, and if they start charging for the browser, their entire userbase – and with it their ability to influence W3C standards – will disappear faster than you can blink. If they do that by selling privacy respecting ads, I’m all for it.
Did Mozilla signal any intention to phase out V2 though? It makes sense for them to support both, as a lot of extensions (that don’t rely on V2 features that are missing from V3) are going to be built for V3 now and if Mozilla wants to keep their extension store full. If they didn’t offer both versions, extensions developers might disregard Firefox as a platform because of its low usage share numbers if they had to maintain two different architectures.
Firefox market share is growing. I expect any content blocker worth its salt will support Mv2 and potentially Mv2 only like Ublock Origin is considering.
glockenspiel@programming.dev 3 months ago
Probably the people—accurately—pointing out that Mozilla has also adopted Manifest V3 along with Google. Google is doing it to curtail (“kill”) ad blockers. Mozilla is also now in the advertising game, and secretly began a telemetry program which is opt-out only. And, given how we shouldn’t trust orgs with financial motive, very well could opt you back in with future updates exactly as Microsoft does.
Plus, their current CEO has a history, and Mozilla as a whole faces dicey times ahead if their Daddy Google is forced to stop buying exclusivity deals by the U.S. government.
So take your pick I guess.
atro_city@fedia.io 3 months ago
Mozilla also introduced opt-out tracking in their browser. Get LibreWolf folks..
Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 3 months ago
It isn’t tracking, ffs. It is anti tracking if anything, designed to help advertisers get what they want without getting ahold of any of your data.
Stop spreading bullshit!
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
I don’t care about advertisers. I will not put up with targeted advertising out of principle. This is a “feature” I’d expect out of Google not Mozilla although these days it isn’t a shock.
If anything, you are the one spreading BS. However, I think we are all entitled to our own opinions. Calling someone else’s opinion on a topic BS is arrogant at best and hurtful at worst. Ultimately there are no right answers
atro_city@fedia.io 3 months ago
Don't make me laugh. You seriously think after buying an ad firm that "privacy preserving attribution" is not a euphemism? And I'm not the only one that sees it that way:
Why don't you stop being to blue-eyed? Mozilla isn't the privacy preserving browser. Hasn't for a long time. Its major reason for existence is to be a functional "alternative" to Chrome that isn't built on top of it.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Man I was gonna say. As soon as noticed it I told everyone to switch to at least Waterfox if they are getting new devices or need recommendations.
I’m personally gonna wait for the Mullvad Browser to get tested some more because that one is said to be much better when it comes to privacy than a lot of others.
I use Vivaldi rn because of the customization option and the privacy is aight but obv not more than can be expected from chromium based browsers.
Also another hint to take your hands off opera or even worse, opera gx if you have that. Not worth it. Data collectors, not very fast anymore and customization I would always recommend Vivaldi or at least another base chromium variant.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Vivaldi is mostly proprietary so I wouldn’t trust it
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 months ago
Per Mozilla’s blog post about adopting Manifest V3, they are, unlike Chrome, not blocking the API that lets uBlock Origin work.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
They aren’t killing Mv2 but they implemented there own ad system in Firefox that was silently turned on. That is on top of all the other anti privacy stuff like telemetry, Firefox suggest and Pocket.
They are only good for privacy when compared to Chrome. Compared to Librewolf and similar they are abysmal
FiskFisk33@startrek.website 3 months ago
Librewolf is firefox, just modified
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 months ago
All that is irrelevant to what I just said, and what you originally said, but for the record, I’m not mad about it. Firefox is implementing ads in a privacy-friendly way and, now that they’re basically the only browser engine in the world that isn’t Chromium and their Google money is drying up, they’re going to have to earn revenue somehow. No way in hell they’re going to live off donations, and if they start charging for the browser, their entire userbase – and with it their ability to influence W3C standards – will disappear faster than you can blink. If they do that by selling privacy respecting ads, I’m all for it.
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 months ago
So they are implementing Manifest v3 but only the parts worth implementing. Thank you Mozzilla 🙏
breakingcups@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Did Mozilla signal any intention to phase out V2 though? It makes sense for them to support both, as a lot of extensions (that don’t rely on V2 features that are missing from V3) are going to be built for V3 now and if Mozilla wants to keep their extension store full. If they didn’t offer both versions, extensions developers might disregard Firefox as a platform because of its low usage share numbers if they had to maintain two different architectures.
eatham@aussie.zone 3 months ago
They said they would do both
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Firefox market share is growing. I expect any content blocker worth its salt will support Mv2 and potentially Mv2 only like Ublock Origin is considering.
Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 3 months ago
Stop spreading fucking lies.
fox2263@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Sigh. Fine I’ll install LibreWold
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
*librewolf
fox2263@lemmy.world 3 months ago
LibenVolf