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Comment on Louis Rossmann's response to harsh criticism of "Stop Killing Games" from Thor of @PirateSoftware

ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

That’s a different statement than you made before. I am also against disabling something someone paid for. But what did you mean by

The code can be stored without needing servers to be kept open

I have to store code? Can’t I delete my own code?

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ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
If you sell someone a game that relies on a server you own, and did not advertise clearly that you were selling a service, not a good (something you own), and then break that product for the customer without any possibility of them repairing their good, and you delete the code that could’ve fixed it, you’d be sorta commiting fraud.

If you abandon a product that was sold as a good, and it became inoperable due to forces unrelated to you, you’d be in the clear.

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- ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Right, so an MMO charging a monthly fee shouldn’t need to make their game available to everyone if they stop charging people the fee and shut it down? Because that’s what I think too.
  
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  - ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Yes, legally an mmo would not be targeted.
    
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    ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    But the FAQ on the stop killing games site specifically says this applies to MMOs. That’s why I disagree. Specifically for the part about MMOs.
    
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  - ZeroHora@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    In the ideal world they could release the code open source, there’s no money lose on that.
    
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WHYAREWEALLCAPS@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
That is not what is being discussed and was never being discussed. You're sounding like you're being pedantic to try to pick a fight

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- ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I’m being specific because this is being intended as a law everyone must follow. “All games need to be available forever” is very vague. How will this vague law be applied in practice? People brought up the idea of eternal code preservation. Alright. How does that work?
  
  I’m not picking a fight. I want supports to explain in vivid detail their expectations because it’s clear not even all the supporters agree on how it would be implemented. Some said it doesn’t apply to MMOs. Some said it does. It needs to be one or the other. That’s not being pedantic, it’s being realistic.
  
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  - ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    What the petition says is what it’s asking for. What we want may be different. What European parliament drafts, if we’re so lucky, will be what’s actually the law. The concerns in the petition are quite clearly about how this applies to EU consumer protections, and many of us are interested in that plus the bonus that this will grant to preservation by proxy.
    
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