Comment on More than 100 arrested in London as violence flares after Southport stabbings

• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You literally just accused me of this and then you admit to actually it being your base belief structure. God you’re obnoxious.

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Never accused you of this, that was another user.

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I agree with Tommy Robinson being charged in contempt of court because I disagree with his views.

  That’s not how courts work, and it’s not how laws work. It shouldn’t be done based on feels.

  I disagree with JSO members being charged in contempt of court because I agree with their views.

  They explicitly said they would rather people in ambulances die than let them through. Do you agree with that?

  Because the former’s views are racist vile shit, but the latter’s views are well intentioned calls for reform.

  Killing people is fine?

  The two are in fact, not equal, and treating them as such, judging them only by how well they play the system we all know is designed to benefit the status quo is putting that system onto a pedestal of perfection and ignoring all nuance.

  You can’t just say “no the law shouldn’t apply to you because I like you”. That sounds like the way some fascist shithole would be run.

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s not how courts work, and it’s not how laws work. It shouldn’t be done based on feels.

    Fee-fees != Morality, context, nuance

    They explicitly said they would rather people in ambulances die than let them through. Do you agree with that?

    It’s a shitty situation. They are not being listened to, what are they supposed to do? Idk I’m not them I can’t unpack all that, but somehow I doubt they have genuine contempt for random people in ambulances.

    Killing people is fine?

    Depends. In self-defense? Yeah, absolutely. Are they Nazis? Yeah go for it man. Landlords? Geez wait for me! Oil execs? Wait wait, slow down, let me grab my S&W.

    You can’t just say “no the law shouldn’t apply to you because I like you”. That sounds like the way some fascist shithole would be run.

    Well we are in a fascist shithole and it’s not run like that so checkmate redditor.

    The problem is that when you let only bad guys use hypocrisy, they win.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It is fee-fees.

      Christ. Imagine defending someone who says that they’d rather let people in ambulances die than let them through. Yikes. I can’t even comprehend being that hateful.

      Depends. In self-defense? Yeah, absolutely. Are they Nazis? Yeah go for it man. Landlords? Geez wait for me! Oil execs? Wait wait, slow down, let me grab my S&W.

      Nope. People in ambulances needing hospital treatment.

      Well we are in a fascist shithole and it’s not run like that so checkmate redditor.

      Yawn.

      People being charged for crimes they’ve committed isn’t fascism.

      The mother of the person who was jailed said it was wrong as it meant her son wouldn’t be able to attend a wedding in America, which was retweeted by JSO. Absolutely hilarious for two reasons:

      • they think they (because they’re wealthy posh twats) shouldn’t be interrupted or made late for things, yet they are happy to make others late for things (such as being rushed to fucking A&E)

      • they are fine with rich people getting flights, but not poor people

      We’re done here. I don’t want to talk to someone who thinks leaving people to die needlessly in ambulances is a good thing. If that really is what gets your dick hard, you need help.

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When I’m in a “don’t comprehend nuance” competition and my opponent is the average Trekkie. Bet you like discovery!

        We’re done here.

        Woah there we got a tough guy on the internet.

        I don’t want to talk to someone who thinks leaving people to die needlessly in ambulances is a good thing.

        And is this someone in the here with us right now?

        Because you made up a strawman in your head. I never said it is a good thing to leave people to die in ambulances needlessly.

        But all the most effective protests and riots in history have had their casualties, and yet brought us the quality of life we enjoy today. That’s not fee-fees, that’s historical fact.

        There’s no need to get so worked up and upset that you must twist my words to make them easier to attack.

        People being charged for crimes they’ve committed isn’t fascism.

        Yeah if you strip away all context from an action nothing can be anything. The anti-protest law isn’t fascistic either, it’s just a bill to keep the peace.

        The mother of the person who was jailed said it was wrong as it meant her son wouldn’t be able to attend a wedding in America, which was retweeted by JSO.

        Yeah I’ll agree with you there. I don’t defend those cringelords as individuals, most anprims and other climatoids are absolute morons beyond all help.

        Okay, now we’re actually done :)

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