Comment on More than 100 arrested in London as violence flares after Southport stabbings

• LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t actually really care that much about the climate and I’m pro-natural-exploitation so long as the spoils of it are shared evenly amongst the proletariat (present and future, so including some degree of preservation), but if some pathetic centrist system-defender wants to label me an eco-warrior I’ll wear it with pride.

  challenges faced by changing

  Aww, profits go down? What a shame. Degrowth would be such a bad thing what will I do without the AI crypto meta verse being made in 2 years :(

  any real desire to moderate or come to some kind of mutual agreement.

  A mutual agreement between a rapist and a victim of rape is not a compromise of a rapist being allowed to “rape a little bit” lmao it is an acknowledgment that one party is 100% right, and the other is absolutely fucking wrong.

  All it is is pronouncements with your nose in the air firmly telling everybody how utterly scummy they are they don’t follow your belief structure.

  I don’t really care if you don’t believe this shit, I think you should consider it, my zealous advocatry for one side I believe is right is not a moral condemnation of opposing and especially not more moderate-but-broadly-in-agreement individuals, it is a condemnation of the system.

  The le evil socialists that comprise little more than half of Gen-Z in the UK aren’t out to get some slobby middle manager’s Toyota Camry, he’s just part of a system, they’re there for those who embezzled billions to actively enforce the system.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A mutual agreement between a rapist and a victim of rape is not a compromise

    If you have to descend to erroneously equating the situation to rape then you’ve lost the argument. You cannot rely on an emotional response to an intellectual exercise it’s not only dishonest it’s also unhelpful.

    The world is in the state it is in not because some evil person decided to be evil one day but because of a natural development of the human condition. We can’t all go back to living in caves that wouldn’t work, we can’t sustain the current population sitting around campfires and singing camping songs. So unless your advocating for mass genocide I don’t really understand what you want here.

    I would prefer to live in the real world and be a realist, I want the world to improve, but I don’t believe that the way to improve it is to be an unmoving obstacle. Doing that is counterproductive to your own argument anyway because everyone will just get fed up with you and eventually ignore you.

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    • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      erroneously equating

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

      emotional response

      And where did I mention emotional responses?

      The world is in the state it is in not because some evil person decided to be evil one day but because of a natural development of the human condition.

      I somewhat agree, but it’s not so much a question of nature and the human condition as a question of material circumstances and class warfare.

      We can’t all go back to living in caves that wouldn’t work, we can’t sustain the current population sitting around campfires and singing camping songs. So unless your advocating for mass genocide I don’t really understand what you want here.

      Ah yes the two options boring cyberpunk dystopias and hunter-gatherer. No in-between. None at all. /s

      would prefer to live in the real world and be a realist, I want the world to improve, but I don’t believe that the way to improve it is to be an unmoving obstacle

      But you just said that you don’t even understand what kind of world people want these days. I’m all for being effective, but it doesn’t seem like you believe in the possibility of structural change we need.

      Doing that is counterproductive to your own argument anyway because everyone will just get fed up with you and eventually ignore you.

      Not how it works at all historically.

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  • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Based

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