Comment on More than 100 arrested in London as violence flares after Southport stabbings
FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 1 month agoPeople imagining something awful for years will be triggered when it finally (allegedly) happens but their fears are ultimately based on fearmongering.
Plenty of people are scared of the two assasinations of MPs by right wing lunatics.
Or that mosque pipe bombing
Or lots of other thanks that happen over and over because of these problematic communities you mention. Do we really need to understand the hate and intolerance to punish it? I don’t think so
Streamwave@feddit.uk 1 month ago
One of them was a far-right lunatic, but the man who assassinated David Amess was a London-born radicalised Muslim affiliated with ISIL
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Fair point, although I’d consider islamic extremism to be pretty far right. It’s just a different branch of far right to the BNP/EDL-style nationalism.
Streamwave@feddit.uk 1 month ago
I think bundling the two together obscures more than it illuminates. I don’t think it’s any less serious (in fact in some regards it’s more dangerous), just that it doesn’t fit with normal far-right characteristics. To take one important difference, the far-right are ultra-nationalists, while Islamic fundamentalists are strictly anti-nationalist – they don’t recognise the legitimacy of nation-states to exist at all. They also tend to be pretty unconcerned with race or ethnicity in themselves, whereas that’s obviously a major thing for Neo-Nazis and other Fascists. And it makes it harder to identify and address the problem, because the sources and drivers of far-right extremism are separate and often unrelated to the sources of Islamic fundamentalism and radicalisation.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s true. When I see “far right terrorism” it certainly conjures images in my mind of nationalist terrorism, despite islamic terrorism literally, by definition, being right wing.
It’s probably indeed better to say “islamic terrorism” if you want to avoid ambiguity. Personally I think we should apply the same treatment to nationalist terrorism, but I think the boat has sailed on that one.
FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 1 month ago
It’s a fair point, thanks for the correction.
Not sure how I got the wrong impression, probably heard he’d been killed for being too woke or something.